New Zealand ID?

[spudchucka]

Next time you are asked to open your bag try a little self respect. It realy is good for personal development.

Skyryder

Self respect?? Good grief what are you on about?? Personal development?? How the hell does refusing to allow a security guard to look in a bag contribute to personal development??

If you are so offended by it then don't go shopping with a bag, problem solved and you can personally develop in other ways if thats what you are into. Take up yoga or something.

What happened to the original topic here about ID cards?? How does any of this crap relate to motor bikes?

While I'm at it who the hell killed JR? I never managed to figure that crap out either.

[Marmoot]

Your rights to privacy take precedent over unfounded suspicion.

So, in this case someone's right is more important that the other's right.
(i.e., someone's Privace right is more important that someone else's Security right).
But then, how do we determine which one's right is more important that the other's right?

And, if my privacy right is so over everyone's right, shouldn't I be allowed to open a bank account without giving my information should I desire not to? Or, whatever right the police have to ask me my name and address since my right of privacy preceeds unfounded suspicion? Especially when there is no suspicion but only a routine check?
Then again, what about if I checks into a hotel (like in the original discussion), I do not need to tell them my name if I do not want to, right?

And if we really want to emphasize the rights of privacy, I then would have the right to ask people not to look into my garden when they go past. And I do not have to make tall fence either, since why should I pay up for a right that has been mine since the beginning. The other people should just look away, not me that should build the fence.

Following this trend, it could get out of hand. Surely there is a logical limit to someone's privacy and/or rights?

[Marmoot]

How does any of this crap relate to motor bikes?

Mate, this is in the non-bike-related forum

[Skyryder]

So, in this case someone's right is more important that the other's right.
(i.e., someone's Privace right is more important that someone else's Security right).
But then, how do we determine which one's right is more important that the other's right?

And, if my privacy right is so over everyone's right, shouldn't I be allowed to open a bank account without giving my information should I desire not to? Or, whatever right the police have to ask me my name and address since my right of privacy preceeds unfounded suspicion? Especially when there is no suspicion but only a routine check?
Then again, what about if I checks into a hotel (like in the original discussion), I do not need to tell them my name if I do not want to, right?

And if we really want to emphasize the rights of privacy, I then would have the right to ask people not to look into my garden when they go past. And I do not have to make tall fence either, since why should I pay up for a right that has been mine since the beginning. The other people should just look away, not me that should build the fence.

Following this trend, it could get out of hand. Surely there is a logical limit to someone's privacy and/or rights?

I think this thread 'has' got out of hand. Bottom line if you are happy with a stranger wearing a uniform looking into your bag so be it. Your choice.

I pay the government a lot of money money for the various licences that I hold. That is the law. No licence, no drive. Same with my bag. No warrent no search. END OF SUBJECT.