I'd just like to say

**Harry33** · 17th April 2006, 22:47

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

Take it all with a grain of salt in this place. Theres the good, the bad and the just plain stupid. Obviously it hurts more if we do know the person who passed on, but i can see your point it is sad when any biker goes down.

There is no right or wrong, just opinions, in the end the guy aint coming back and wether we argue back and forth how much he matters it aint going to bring him back.

I guess enjoy your riding while you got it, you never know when you have had your last ride.

Yip I agree with Dynamytus50...lives to short to sit around and argue.

**Slingshot** · 17th April 2006, 22:51

Welcome.

You posted this in the wrong place

, should have been in the newbie section...I don't actually give a shit but just though I'd point that out.

Enjoy your stay.

**crashe** · 17th April 2006, 22:51

Hey guys.. lets all chill out here ok...

Lets us all think about the families and friends of those riders that passed away today while they were out riding their bikes today.
RIP to the 3 riders.

Originally Posted by stuff.co.nz

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3640154a10,00.html
Third motorcycle fatality takes toll to five
17 April 2006

The death of a third motorcyclist took the Easter road toll to five.

The 32-year-old man died after his motorcycle collided with a car at in Hastings about 6pm.

His female passenger is in serious condition in Hastings Hopsital, said Hastings police Sergeant Gary McFadyen.

Police want to speak to witnesses to the accident which happened at the intersection Pakowhai and Ruahapia roads.

It was the third fatal crash involving motorcyclists on Monday.

A St John Ambulance spokesman said one person died shortly before 4.30pm when a motorcycle collided with a tractor near Matamata. No further details were available.

A motorcyclist also died at the scene of a collision with a car on Waingaro Road in Te Kowhai, just north of Hamilton.

Inspector Paul Marshall, from the police northern communications centre, said emergency services were called about 11.03am today. No other details were available..........

**Cookie** · 17th April 2006, 22:53

Originally Posted by WINJA

I THOUGHT YOU TRIED TO SELL BIKES OR SOMETHING FOR A LIVING, I SEE YOUR DOING A GREAT PR JOB , GOOD LUCK

Have to agree Winja. I was looking at a bike for sale at that place just the other day thinking, what would it cost to ship it up? Seriously.

Not to worry Crasherfromwayback. I am sure there are people here who have survived this sort of intro to KiwiBiker (or even worse) and still made a positive contribution in the end. It does look like you have a struggle on your hands though.

The "Best Wishes" was genuine.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th April 2006, 22:58

Originally Posted by WINJA

I THOUGHT YOU TRIED TO SELL BIKES OR SOMETHING FOR A LIVING, I SEE YOUR DOING A GREAT PR JOB , GOOD LUCK

It's great that you should mention that.
I have to put up with shit attitudes from people from time to time at work.
But I don't have to bother in my spare time.
Yeah I do sell bikes for a living.
Funny thing is, despite what people may think of salesmen, you don't survive if you're a full of shit tosser.
I guess seeing as I have a large and loyal customer base that keeps growing over the years and throughout the different franchises I've worked in, I should feel I'm doing something right yeah?
Do I make mistakes? Hell yeah.
But.....
Honesty, integrity, and an open and friendly nature are the things that keep you at the top and in the scene.
Come and see me some time, I'd love to sell you your next bike.

**Motu** · 17th April 2006, 22:59

I didn't see anything wrong with your first posts,but they certainly have a little ''cleek'' going here,someone throws their toy out of the pram and there's a feeding frenzy - just ignore the fuckers.

**WINJA** · 17th April 2006, 23:05

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

It's great that you should mention that.
I have to put up with shit attitudes from people from time to time at work.
But I don't have to bother in my spare time.
Yeah I do sell bikes for a living.
Funny thing is, despite what people may think of salesmen, you don't survive if you're a full of shit tosser.
I guess seeing as I have a large and loyal customer base that keeps growing over the years and throughout the different franchises I've worked in, I should feel I'm doing something right yeah?
Do I make mistakes? Hell yeah.
But.....
Honesty, integrity, and an open and friendly nature are the things that keep you at the top and in the scene.
Come and see me some time, I'd love to sell you your next bike.

YOUR NOT ALONE ,THERES SOME OTHER BIKE SALESMEN ON THIS SITE , THEY JUST SEEM TO HAVE MORE OF A GIFT WITH PEOPLE THAN YOU DO.

AS FOR SALESMEN BEING SCUM I DONT THINK MOST OF US WOULD SAY THAT ABOUT BIKE SALEMEN , MAYBE SOME CAR SALESMEN LIKE FROSTY FOR INSTANCE .

SAYING THAT , I THINK THE WHOLE MOTORCYCLE INDUSTRY NEEDS A BOOT IN THE ARSE

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th April 2006, 23:07

Originally Posted by Motu

I didn't see anything wrong with your first posts,but they certainly have a little ''cleek'' going here,someone throws their toy out of the pram and there's a feeding frenzy - just ignore the fuckers.

No way!
Mate.....I'm loving it.
I thrive on stuff like this....have a look at some of their 'perspectives' and 'jabs'.
Not exactly well informed or hard to combat. And a good way to pass the time.
Just wish I'd signed up while I was off work.....

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th April 2006, 23:17

Originally Posted by WINJA

YOUR NOT ALONE ,THERES SOME OTHER BIKE SALESMEN ON THIS SITE , THEY JUST SEEM TO HAVE MORE OF A GIFT WITH PEOPLE THAN YOU DO.

AS FOR SALESMEN BEING SCUM I DONT THINK MOST OF US WOULD SAY THAT ABOUT BIKE SALEMEN , MAYBE SOME CAR SALESMEN LIKE FROSTY FOR INSTANCE .

SAYING THAT , I THINK THE WHOLE MOTORCYCLE INDUSTRY NEEDS A BOOT IN THE ARSE

Hey look, you've not sent me a barbed message to my 'Reputation Received' area, so all good.
I'm not at work now, so I feel I can say whatever I truly think when attempts are made to gun me down.
Because I'm a straight up honest guy.
I'll help you with all of my years experiance as best as I can if you are doing business with me, and I've even been known to send a potential customer elsewhere if I don't feel I've got what they need.

But if said customer wants the bike I have available to him/her, and he/she chooses to talk to me like shit, I'll smile and take their money.
But I'm not trying to take money off said (luckily few and far between in the bike world) nasty people here.
Just trying to get the facts straight.

So I speak my mind.
I'll never apologise for that.

**oldrider** · 17th April 2006, 23:18

Hey there Crasherfromwayback, you didn't happen to borrow your shovel from George Bush did you?
It sort of seems to dig the same kind of holes! I'd get it checked if I were you.

Cheers John.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th April 2006, 23:56

Originally Posted by oldrider

Hey there Crasherfromwayback, you didn't happen to borrow your shovel from George Bush did you?
It sort of seems to dig the same kind of holes! I'd get it checked if I were you.

Cheers John.

Actually my good fellow, I far prefer a 'Spade'.

It would however, appear that the 'Good Mr Bush' taught you to read.

Try again.
Although this time pay attention to what I actually said.
If you understand it second time 'round, You MAY find it'll make a difference.
If not, I'm sorry I can't help.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 18th April 2006, 00:06

To the person that told me to "Learn some manners".
I thank you.
I was always told it was polite to let people know who was talking to them.
The truth, (despite certain people not being able to handle it) is quite a different thing to manners.

Have a nice night.

**Insanity_rules** · 18th April 2006, 07:14

When ya get a lot of people in one place, you also get a lot of opinions. People here are a normally pretty caring bunch ie help when you need it or condolence when a biker falls.

**Rashika** · 18th April 2006, 07:50

welll... I'd just like to say...

Welcome to KB and a right royal welcome you got for yourself eh? Mind you I guess its probably a little deserved seeing as ya kinda jumped in without a lifejacket, but hey guess we all learn from experience dont we? DONT WE??
Not that it takes a lot to get some here riled up... HINT: dont mention trucks, crossing white lines or group riding distances ok?

Hmm so you went into the hay at Wangas huh? Prob saw it happen tho didn't get that gooda pic. Hope your recovery continues ok, and you get back on it soon.
That said, have fun on KB and just remember what it is actually about... y'know RIDING bikes. I think a few on here tend to forget that, and think it is more about seeing how much shit can be stirred... yeah sometimes me too

Weather superb down here at present, 2 trips to Akers over the weekend, lots of summit road riding, great twisty shit, plus some jelly wrestling at the rural pub we visit... YES WINGA real jelly wrestling :spudflip: tho it was a bit average i have to say

**Albino** · 18th April 2006, 08:01

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Hasn't made me bitter and twisted like some of these clowns.
Whilst I fully realise it is the internet, it's the fact that some of these so called 'Kiwi Bikers' are so quick to judge and condem a fellow? biker for an honest and well meaning era of judgement and timing.

They are the ones that are yet to learn what it is to be a true biker.
Some, by the sound of it, will never grasp it.

Get off your horse, consider the fact that you may have deserved the "bad rep" and shut the fuck up. If you came into my house carrying on like a horses arse such as you are now then I'd tell you to fuck off.

Welcome to our house.