Self-inflicted death

[kickingzebra]

Good points Milky, Motoracer, Cheers for bringing it up.
I must say that having God in my life has been a huge help. Some would say maybe it is the cause of half the problem. I can't answer that.
Others might say christianity is a crutch.

I say there isn't a person in this world without some problems, and for them, if they like, christianity can be a stretcher.

It isn't wrong to admit you need help, but it pays to be wise in who you solicit the help from, not all professionals are equal, for example. Some show much more empathy, which helps for me, nothing is worse than speaking with someone in depth about your problems, when they don't or can't understand to some small degree.

[HDTboy]

I'd like to say that it has been VERY difficult for me to write stuff here, as I feel extremely vulnerable in doing so. I hope this thread (a) enlightens those who are ignorant, and (b) offers some solace or help in some way to those who are afflicted.

I feel the same, but to a lesser degree as I've not gone into great detail like others.

If anyone does want to talk to me about anything I'm usually available, and will offer anything I can

[Motu]

It was the third of June, another sleepy, dusty Delta day
I was out choppin' cotton and my brother was balin' hay
And at dinner time we stopped and walked back to the house to eat
And Mama hollered out the back door "y'all remember to wipe your feet"
And then she said "I got some news this mornin' from Choctaw Ridge"
"Today Billy Joe MacAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge"

And Papa said to Mama as he passed around the blackeyed peas
"Well, Billy Joe never had a lick of sense, pass the biscuits, please"
"There's five more acres in the lower forty I've got to plow"
And Mama said it was shame about Billy Joe, anyhow
Seems like nothin' ever comes to no good up on Choctaw Ridge
And now Billy Joe MacAllister's jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge

And Brother said he recollected when he and Tom and Billie Joe
Put a frog down my back at the Carroll County picture show
And wasn't I talkin' to him after church last Sunday night?
"I'll have another piece of apple pie, you know it don't seem right"
"I saw him at the sawmill yesterday on Choctaw Ridge"
"And now you tell me Billie Joe's jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge"

And Mama said to me "Child, what's happened to your appetite?"
"I've been cookin' all morning and you haven't touched a single bite"
"That nice young preacher, Brother Taylor, dropped by today"
"Said he'd be pleased to have dinner on Sunday, oh, by the way"
"He said he saw a girl that looked a lot like you up on Choctaw Ridge"
"And she and Billy Joe was throwing somethin' off the Tallahatchie Bridge"

A year has come 'n' gone since we heard the news 'bout Billy Joe
And Brother married Becky Thompson, they bought a store in Tupelo
There was a virus going 'round, Papa caught it and he died last Spring
And now Mama doesn't seem to wanna do much of anything
And me, I spend a lot of time pickin' flowers up on Choctaw Ridge

And drop them into the muddy water off the Tallahatchie Bridge

[Coyote]

One thing I love to read is the chicken soup for the teenage soul and all the other ones in the series. I fully recommend them to anyone who was touched by this thread.

Haha, my old PE teacher would use that as punishment for anyone talking in the middle of class. They would have to stand up in front of class and recite and extract from the book. A good laugh when a tough rugby player is forced to tell about their first period Otherwise, it's a good book I must admit

Must say I feel a whole lot better reading this thread to know I'm not the only one that has felt like shit and that I'm doing the right thing by enduring my life. Thanks to everyone

[hXc]

Well I must say that I've thought about suicide since Meeckal killed himself. It stopped at the thought though. The thing stopping me is, I'm just too fucking scared. I couldn't bring myself to do it. I'm too scared of what I will be leaving behind. I know that a lot of people care about me and I couldn't bear(sp?) to leave them all behind.

This thread has brought me even further away from the thought of ending my life. But it still doesn't stop me from being depressed. I have not been to a doctor, so I don't know if I actually have depression. Although, I think I do. I haven't even confronted my parents or anyone else about it yet. I'm not sure how to. Of course they will read this but I still don't really know what to do about it.

But thank you all for your thoughts, experiences and messages.

[Scorpygirl]

Thanks for that Scorpy. Been looking for that proverb for a while now. Could ya translate it? Think it gets something like: Stand tall, Stand proud ........ But I cann't remember it all now.

Hi Rider-in-Black

It translates as Be strong, be brave, be steadfast and sure.

[RiderInBlack]

"Kia kaha, kia toa, kia manawanui"

Hi Rider-in-Black

It translates as Be strong, be brave, be steadfast and sure.

Thanks heaps Scorpy. First heard that one while doing my RN training and have been racking my brain trying ta remember it. Has very special significance for me. Thanks again

[Scorpygirl]

"Kia kaha, kia toa, kia manawanui"Thanks heaps Scorpy. First heard that one while doing my RN training and have been racking my brain trying ta remember it. Has very special significance for me. Thanks again

No problem RIB!!! It's a good saying to keep in mind.

[RiderInBlack]

No problem RIB!!! It's a good saying to keep in mind.

Aye Helped big time during my nurse training years.

[T.I.E]

someone i knew couldn't stand the pain he felt anymore, hispartner threatened him often about taking his 3 children away from him. i can not understand. he loved his children so much. that was one of the main reasons i found out later on. there were other factors too.

he went into the garage made a noose, didn't stand on a box he stood there placed it over his head and around his neck and then just relaxed. his feet were dragging on the ground. all he had to do was stand up. but his world was so dark he wanted to be rid of his pain.

he just did not want the pain in his life.

i can understand parts of what made him do it and i feel for him.
and he will be missed.

but i could not believe all he had to do was stand up.

[Scorpygirl]

he just did not want the pain in his life.

i can understand parts of what made him do it and i feel for him.
and he will be missed.

but i could not believe all he had to do was stand up.

I think that is just it TIE you can't stand up and face the world anymore, your feet just drag on the ground day after day. That is the reality for some.

[Jackrat]

No time for people that want to kill themselfs,or pretend they do because their looking for sympathy.They come looking round here, I'd lend them a rope an point to the closest tree.
Fuck being understanding,it's the ultimate show of selfishness.
They should be held in total contempt an maybe it wouldn't look like such a good idea after all.
An before all the bleeding hearts start on about my never knowing any loser that's done it or tried to do it,,,I fucking have an that's the very reason why I have no time for these parasites.
Fuck em' Darwin had a plan,these twats are proving him right.

[T.I.E]

I think that is just it TIE you can't stand up and face the world anymore, your feet just drag on the ground day after day. That is the reality for some.

i was one of the first people there i had to cut him down. and stuff happened after that, but that not for this forum.

i miss that boy.

[Scorpygirl]

No time for people that want to kill themselfs,or pretend they do because their looking for sympathy.They come looking round here, I'd lend them a rope an point to the closest tree.
Fuck being understanding,it's the ultimate show of selfishness.
They should be held in total contempt an maybe it wouldn't look like such a good idea after all.
An before all the bleeding hearts start on about my never knowing any loser that's done it or tried to do it,,,I fucking have an that's the very reason why I have no time for these parasites.
Fuck em' Darwin had a plan,these twats are proving him right.

You are not worth replying to!!!

[Mrs Busa Pete]

No time for people that want to kill themselfs,or pretend they do because their looking for sympathy.They come looking round here, I'd lend them a rope an point to the closest tree.
Fuck being understanding,it's the ultimate show of selfishness.
They should be held in total contempt an maybe it wouldn't look like such a good idea after all.
An before all the bleeding hearts start on about my never knowing any loser that's done it or tried to do it,,,I fucking have an that's the very reason why I have no time for these parasites.
Fuck em' Darwin had a plan,these twats are proving him right.

Well i guess you won't want to come to my bbq then.No worry's because there are a lot of nicer people on this site that will except us for who we are and not try to put us down. And as for holding me in contempt for being born with a few less or a few more gens in my brain well that would be no great loss because with friends like you people won't need enamys