Assault

[SwanTiger]

Firstly,

I am genuinely sorry to hear about your situation Kittie. If you want my opinion, there is no reason to be involved in a relationship where at points one of you will resort to violence. Move on.

On the debate of a male hitting a woman:

After boxing for several years and sparring with females, I am of the opinion that a woman who invokes violence entitles the male to defend himself as he sees fit. Some woman can handle themselves and given the opportunity can cause severe injuries.

If in a heated argument a woman responds violently then the situation, in my opinion, is different and the male is subject to his own morals. In which case I would expect the male to remove themselve from the situation hopefully defusing the heated argument.

Common sense really.

It probably wont be long before our Babysitter Government acts against the amount of Domestic Violence. In which case, they'll pay a bunch of delinquint fucktards to police a policy drafted by related fucktards which makes no repeal on the matter let alone sense.

Fucken cunts.

[Big Dave]

Hence the Buell, no-one else makes two wheeled tractors......oh oh, I think I've got somewhere else to be....(patter of rapidly receding footsteps)

No - Quite right - I call it 'the Tractor'. KTM 990 is another.

[cowpoos]

White Trash...skinny lil' thang...that's handy to know..........

................thats trashy......priddy lil skinny white thing eh!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

................thats trashy......priddy lil skinny white thing eh!!!

Impressive....he didn't have tits like that when he worked with me at WMCC.
If he had, I would've gone out with him when he asked me!

[NotaGoth]

................thats trashy......priddy lil skinny white thing eh!!!

hahahhaha i love that pic.. lol

[Crasherfromwayback]

I GOT A COUSIN KNICKNAMED "THE BUTCHER" WHOS NOT QUITE AS TALL AS YOU BUT FAR FAR HEAVIER , THIS MIGHT NOT SOUND LIKE A BIG DEAL BUT SHE IS A GIRL, DONT LOOK LIKE ONE THO

As long as she's REAL hairy...can you PM me her phone number?

[slowpoke]

I'm sorri....but have you heard of motoguzzi tractors? dangrous owns one....lol

Is that why he's called "dangerous"?

[cowpoos]

Impressive....he didn't have tits like that when he worked with me at WMCC.
If he had, I would've gone out with him when he asked me!

thats what happens when ya move to auckland...pifft they all pussies up there....

[slowpoke]

................thats trashy......priddy lil skinny white thing eh!!!

HOOOEEE, he's a cutie ain't he...personally I like the ones with tits on their back...it's better when you are slow dancing.......

[cowpoos]

As long as she's REAL hairy...can you PM me her phone number?

numbers..... 0800chickswithdicks

[Crasherfromwayback]

numbers..... 0800chickswithdicks

Nah mate...tried that and WT answered.

[buellbabe]

...I did recieve an apology today, and no I haven't gone running. So that tells you that some advice has sunken in though it may not look like it.

I do still believe how ever that people do change but that takes them admitting that they have a problem and doing something about it, its a long road ahead, but if they can't admit it nothing will ever change...

Well getting back to the original thread...
I was in a relationship with a guy that was a Jekyll/Hyde. Heard all that "I'm so sorry" shit many times and so I continued to make excuses for the A-hole for another 2 miserable years... finally the threat to kill my dogs and torch the house made me crack and kick him to the kerb. Maybe I am abit biased on this topic but saying sorry and doing something about it are 2 very different things. That sort of apology ain't worth SHIT!

[Riff Raff]

I go to a lot of domestic violence incidents in my job, and in every instance it's not the first time the man has hit the woman. I went to one recently where the woman was badly beaten, and found by her 6 year old daughter. This woman had 3 restraining orders against the man, and yet she invited him back yet again. She had no sympathy from her parents or the police, and there's a possibility she could end up in a wheelchair from the attack.
I've had women who have managed to get away from their violent men, be in woman's refuge, and still go and meet the man the next day, only to end up getting the bash again.

IF they hit you once, they will do it again. And if you take them back thinking they will change, you have given him a licence to do it again.

Men who bash women, are attracted to weaker women - ones they can control to make them feel like a big man. If you are in a situation with a man like this, the only way things are going to change is if you change yourself. Get away, take a good look at yourself, change your own attitude and the vibes you give off, and become strong. You'll be amazed at the different sort of people who want to be around you.

I know all this from bitter experience. Once I sorted out my own problems and got our of the 'poor me' syndrome, my life got better and better. I have some wonderful people around me now and can't remember a time when I've ever been so happy.

[ManDownUnder]

Maybe I am abit biased on this topic but saying sorry and doing something about it are 2 very different things. That sort of apology ain't worth SHIT!

Agreed - been there. An ex g/f wound me up so much one night, I saw red and lashed out, right hand slap to her face... not hard - I realised what was happening and started to pull it... too late.

It took me 200% by surprise, I was so profoundly shocked by it I just stopped stared and didn't bother apologising. I had an anger problem I didn't know the scale of till that moment. I didn't bother apologising, as BB said it wouldn't be worth shit. I knew it then - I know it now.

Domestic violence is a sign something's seriously wrong with the violent person and if they can't sort it out they need to have someone come and forceably sort them out. I'm glad things turned out good for me. I did walk away, I did stop and think and I did do something about it... I grew up.

That incident is one of the real lowlights of my life and it's something I'm still very ashamed of but if it helps shed any light on what's going on you're welcome to it.
MDU

[spudchucka]

I find it quite extraordinary that a country which champions womens rights and sexual equality and is governed by a "woman" we still have such a bullshit sexist charge as "male assaults female".

It's almost as bad all that affirmative action shit and the "Black Music Awards", fucking prejudice reversed and it really pisses me off.

Should we do away with "Assault on a child" too?

Its simply an specific charge to be used when there are aggravating circumstances to the point that a common assault charge wouldn't be appropriate. A male that pushed or shoved a female would be liable for common assault. A male that punches a female in the head would be liable for MAF.

The fact that there is a specific MAF offence recognises that women are more vulnerable to assaults by men and are less capable of defending themselves, (generally), which are aggravating factors to the what might be simply common assault if it were male vs male.