Assault

[Finn]

Kittie, people seldom change. Forget about him, move on and don't start making excuses for him. At 30 a guy should have his shit together. Don't sell yourself short girl.

Abuse comes in many flavours. I'm currently in an abusive relationship so can sympathise with you. My girlfriend is Swedish and the amount of sexual abuse is getting out of control. Morning, day and night, it just never stops. I've lost 10 kilos in 6 months. My friends are very supportive and have all offered to abuse her back for me but this is my problem. I will deal with it. To top this off, she irons my shirts wrong, over cooks my eggs and forgets to clean the chain oil off my rims. I am strong. I will get through this.

[sAsLEX]

If you don't have the control to refrain from hitting a woman, not matter what level of provacation you have, why are you any different from the cave men that rape?
Both crimes are from weak men that have no control and seek power.

SO some woman is beating you up you just sit there and take it? I dont see how people have such a strong aversion to hitting woman, no I dont go round beating up woman at all and never will, but if put in a situation where a "person" is threatening me or those I am protecting, note person not male or female, I will asses the situation and deal out the appropriate amount of force be it hands, baton or Sig Sauer. The sex of you opponent makes no difference.

Anyone taking advantage of someone weaker is in the wrong no matter their sex.

[Smorg]

This happened tonight. I'm now at home. With my mum. Away from him?

Good make sure you stay that way, like the others have said a man who is of any value doesnt hit women

edit* and i know fred and wilma are from the friggin flintstones

[Crasherfromwayback]

Years ago a girlfriend of mine lost it when she thought I was chatting up another woman at a party (my party no less).
She'd had far too much to drink, stormed from one side of the room over to me and without a word smashed me fair in the chops.
I called a taxi, escorted her from the room, put her in it and never saw or spoke to her again.
Better than bashing her back and real simple.

[Hitcher]

Say if you were female and in a situation where you have an arguement with an ex partner, the arguement gets rather heated. You end up being twak'd one round the face. Would you follow through with an assault charge against the person involved?

Go the Cops. A crime has been committed. Your choice should be whether or not to press charges, rather than whether or not to report it to the Police.

What if he does it again, although more seriously next time? Or what if he does the same thing to another partner or former partner? Evidential records are important. As a society we condone domestic violence to a point where it is a national sport -- if there was an Olympic event, New Zealand's team would win a medal. Enough is enough. Report this crime.

On a similar topic, not reporting other forms of criminals, such as embezzlers or kiddy fiddlers, can see them continue to be placed in situations where their offending can continue.

[The_Dover]

Fuck me there are some neanderthal views on here.

Violence against any person is wrong, whether they have a cock or a gash. If some fucker comes at me, male, female or androgynous, they'll get the same treatment back. I'm not going to be assaulted by any cunt and I don't make a habit out of smashing anyone else over.

If a woman is good enough to run the fucking country, join the army, whatever else, I.E. equal opportunities, which I am all for, then they should expect to be treated equally in ALL situations. Not be patronised with this sexist shit.

Violence is violence, the sex of the perpetrator or victim is irrelevant.

And anyone who thinks otherwise should go check that the missus is in the kitchen where she belongs.

This is irrelevant to Kittie's case as I do not know the details of the altercation, but if the ex was the instigator of violence then they are in the wrong. Whether it was a punch up between a hetero couple or a pair of poofs, throwing the first punch is a lack of self control and that person is in the wrong. Penis or no penis.

[Big Dave]

SO some woman is beating you up you just sit there and take it? I dont see how people have such a strong aversion to hitting woman,

ANY bloke that hits ANY woman is a soft cocked maggot.
And you should know better than to post the above SHIT.

[inlinefour]

Fuck me there are some neanderthal views on here.

Violence against any person is wrong, whether they have a cock or a gash. If some fucker comes at me, male, female or androgynous, they'll get the same treatment back. I'm not going to be assaulted by any cunt and I don't make a habit out of smashing anyone else over.

If a woman is good enough to run the fucking country, join the army, whatever else, I.E. equal opportunities, which I am all for, then they should expect to be treated equally in ALL situations. Not be patronised with this sexist shit.

Violence is violence, the sex of the perpetrator or victim is irrelevant.

And anyone who thinks otherwise should go check that the missus is in the kitchen where she belongs.

We, being males can generally physically cope with being assaulted better than a female. There is a big difference when it comes to the physical nature of alot of shelias (yea there are exceptions both ways). Apart from that, yea I agree with ya but u "And anyone who thinks otherwise should go check that the missus is in the kitchen where she belongs" concept could be a tad closed minded.
As Mr H said, family violence is rampant in NZ also. My teachings tell me that on average, the Abused will return to the abusie 7 times before actually realising that nothing is likely to change. Its not that the abusie is stupid, but rather due to the emotional feelings the abusie has for the abuser. Which I pray does not occur in this instance.

[WRT]

Domestic abuse can never be condoned. Note that if he gets a criminal conviction from this, then it will follow him wherever he goes. Job interviews, insurance applications, visa's for traveling through other countries. Its a good reminder to him that what he has done was wrong.

Someone mentioned this guy is 30. By this age he should have matured enough to know right from wrong. I have never met you Kittie, but your pics show someone of slight build, and I seem to recall you mentioning you were 19. A 30 year old male should never hit a 19 year old slightly built female.

And just to add fuel to the rest of the debate . . . as Hitcher mentioned, NZ is at the forefront for domestic violence. We were also at the forefront of the womens rights movement. Is it a case of women asking to be treated as equals and getting just that? Is it now equally acceptable (in some circles) to hit a woman as it is to hit a man?

I certainly hope not. It seems that chivalry is dying. Out of my social circle, I am one of a very few that still opens the door for my girlfriend, or pulls out her chair. I am lucky that I have found someone that appreciates these little things too, and recognises them. I have been out with women in the past that had no idea why I would always move to walk on the outside of them on the footpath. And perhaps that is why chivalry is dying - its just wasted on too many women.

[hunt]

your obviously not to hurt, otherwise your be in medical care, stay away from the guy, and if he contacts you tell him he punches like a girl,and its all over, your looking for a real man

[The_Dover]

I don't give a fuck about the physical nature.

I'm saying it is wrong to lash out at anyone.

Does this mean that if some little faggot comes and gives me a smack I should walk away cos I'm bigger and stronger, but if a man my size has a go then it's all on and all good cos he can obviously handle himself?

Get with the programme folks, this is the 21st century. Don't hit anyone and they wont hit you back.

The debate between whether it is right or wrong to hit a woman and the issue of domestic violence are completely seperate.

OF course it is wrong to give the missus the bash because she wont cook your eggs, but that is not because she is female, it is because it is abuse, full stop. It is equally as wrong for a woman to feel that it is ok to smack the hubby when she's on the rag. It is still abuse.

No one should have to entertain being beaten up on a regular basis, penis or no penis.

Drop the sexist shit and concentrate on the actual violence.

[sAsLEX]

ANY bloke that hits ANY woman is a soft cocked maggot.
And you should know better than to post the above SHIT.

Stone age view their mate sorry.

Now dont get me wrong I aint going to go and punch some chick , and I agree that guys that hit woman aint right, but then I think woman that hit men belong in the same basket.

You cant have such a broad simple view of things though, the world is far more complex these days.

So what would you do in Unarmed combat training these days? since woman can go to war and fight next to a man...

[Pixie]

Totally agree. "I don't know what happened officer. he just fell over the fence/down the stairs while I was walking past. Pity he broke a limb in the fall."

Unfortunately that is the only way that some of these barbarians will ever learn.

"I don't know what happened officer. he just fell over the fence/down the stairs while I was walking past. Pity he broke a limb in the fall."
And when I went to his aid,I slipped and stood on his throat.

[DMNTD:Me]

I don't give a fuck about the physical nature.
I'm saying it is wrong to lash out at anyone.
Does this mean that if some little faggot comes and gives me a smack I should walk away cos I'm bigger and stronger, but if a man my size has a go then it's all on and all good cos he can obviously handle himself?
Get with the programme folks, this is the 21st century. Don't hit anyone and they wont hit you back.
The debate between whether it is right or wrong to hit a woman and the issue of domestic violence are completely seperate.
OF course it is wrong to give the missus the bash because she wont cook your eggs, but that is not because she is female, it is because it is abuse, full stop. It is equally as wrong for a woman to feel that it is ok to smack the hubby when she's on the rag. It is still abuse.
No one should have to entertain being beaten up on a regular basis, penis or no penis.
Drop the sexist shit and concentrate on the actual violence.

This has to be one of the best posts I've seen you write...I agree 100%
Punching a woman up is wrong in everyway IMHO,but in saying that NO person has the rite to take advantage of their lack of size,sex,race etc to abuse others.
I've seen EXTREME abuse of all types,by all types dished out and it is NOT on...EITHER way!




BTW: Kittie...there are good blokes out there m'dear! You don't need a second rate plonker. Cut the dude loose and take control of the important parts...you!

[Big Dave]

Stone age view their mate sorry.

It's called being a gentleman and having honour.
I have never raised a hand to a woman and I've had some laying into me at the pub etc. Walked away.
I want nothing to do with any man who does.