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    Going TOO fast

    This was only really a problem for me when I went racing, but.

    At the hairpin, I would enter too fast. My peg would start scraping early in the corner, and continue to scrape all the way through.

    By the time I got half way around the corner, i realised that with the line I chose to take, at the speed I chose to go, I would not make it all the way around the corner.

    On all occations, I would straighten up just before hitting the grass and run out and then ride back onto the track.

    What i want to know is this:
    At the point that i realise i'm not going to make it how i'm going, what can I do to make the corner (and therefore lose less time)
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    pull more of your weight to the inside of the bike...not just your lower torso and leg,knee...more ur upper body over alot and closer to the tank...find some pic's of racers at high lean angles and look at there positions....
    another thing is PM 'shaun' [as in shaun harris...he's on the site] and ask him...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZorsT
    What i want to know is this:
    At the point that i realise i'm not going to make it how i'm going, what can I do to make the corner (and therefore lose less time)
    Have a slightly slower entry...

    But i prefer, roll off the throttle slightly, and feather the front brake...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos
    PM 'shaun' [as in shaun harris...he's on the site] and ask him...
    Then tell us too.

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    Like The Dover says, "Slow in, fast out."

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    Working on the theory you have already entered the corner
    LEAN MORE -- when all else fails--LEAN
    Get your body inboard WAAY inboard.
    The other thing is--the peg scraped--so what?? let it scrape and fold up --
    Lay the bike over on its side till the peg hits then see how much further ya can lean before anything solid hits the deck.

    The other thing is PRACTICE --You know iots a weakness so see how the other guys do it then make use of the practice time
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    Slow in, Fast out.

    Peace.

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    fukn hell dover, claiming to be fast again...... your just a little less slow coming out of corners. not fast......

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    Every time I poo'd that corner up, the next few times I entered at a slower speed, and all was fine. A slower entry speed is easy enough to say, but when you are already in the corner it is too late.

    It seems I need to move more weight off the bike (another known weakness of mine) and crank it over further ;D

    I am reluctant to roll off the throttle or touch the brake for fear of a bin, although with a TT900GP i should be able to get away with a fair amount.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZorsT
    I am reluctant to roll off the throttle or touch the brake for fear of a bin, although with a TT900GP i should be able to get away with a fair amount.

    Cheers
    Theres only one way to learn, and thats to try it, the worst case scenario if you roll off the throttle too much is you run wide, and do a bit of grass tracking which is managable. Feathering the brake is all about learning how much you can use. You will be surprised how much brake you can use in mid corner... Just take things in small steps and you will learn what it feels like when the front is starting to tuck and how much brake you can use

    On a RG150 dont do what Frosty said, because it will unload the back wheel, and you will lowside (experienced in this...) But this doesnt apply to bigger bikes

    So in summary... GET OUT THERE AND PRACTICE LEARN THE BIKE AND LEARN WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT BUT MOST OF ALL HAVE FUN
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    Well said Two Smoker,

    That's a good piece of advice. Practice and more practice is the only way to learn what your bike is capable of and how it reacts to mid corner braking etc. Every bike is unique. I ride the 'Wing totally different to the Kawasaki 750 that also shares the gargre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZorsT
    i realised that with the line I chose to take, at the speed I chose to go, I would not make it all the way around the corner.
    Perhaps you need to try a different line

    Will you be down for the have a go day on March 18th?
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    Rearsets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha
    Perhaps you need to try a different line

    Will you be down for the have a go day on March 18th?
    I'll try to get down, but i'm not too sure about riding down again

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    Rearsets...
    streetstock rules don't allow rearsets IIRC, but I had thought of that
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    Tell me about it. I cocked up yesterday when I couldn't flick the bike over fast enough through an S-bend while I had the front brake on (just lightly mind).

    Could I have made it even with the brake on, if I had just given it heaps and counter-steered harder?
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