Attitude

[Skyryder]

The Speeding and Dangerous Driving thread bought a few comments about attitude. Have a bad attitude = cost $$$$.

How many of us have encountered a bad attitude from the Police. I can recall a trip when I was coming home from Hanmer after a hot dip in the pools. I was travelling behind two cars that were doing about 90 95 k's in the rolling hills. I stayed behind these two vehicles for about four to five minutes and when it was safe to pass let rip so as to get back on the right side of the road as soon as pos. Well it so happens that the rear car was a mufti patrol. I slowed down and cruised at about 100k's and soon see the 'dreaded' red flasing light in the mirror. The only thing that saved me was the car must have been the trap car as there was no radar in the vehicle. From the moment this officer and it was a female I could tell that it was her that had the attitude problem, and not myself. Sarcasm and inuendo dripped off her mouth like a salivating dog with a bone in its mouth. This dike and I do not use such words lightly not only checked my licence, rego, personal details etc, but prevented me from my travels for about thirty minutes while she continued to give me a lecture on the evils of speeding. I have no doubt that not having the evidence for an infringment notice she was waiting for me to leave without her permission. This is not the first time this has happened.

Just wondering how many of us out there have struck the Police with an attitude.

Skyryder

[James Deuce]

Only ever struck "the attitude" once, and it was Christmas Day last year.

Check this out: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=1500

Other than that I've found being polite works really well. Not greasy sycophant polite, respectful polite.

[wkid_one]

Yup - the fuckwit who pulled me over for 'losing traction' at a set of lights. I took off from the lights (I was at the front - and he was in the car behind the car in the lane next to me) like a bat out of hell - got to 110kph and cruised. He then came up behind me and pulled me over. Asked me to get out of the car, turn the engine off - blah blah blah. Then proceeded to lecture me about reckless driving etc, still not telling me what I'd done - and then started ranting speeding etc. He then finally told me what I had supposedly done. He said I had 'broken traction for a sustained period' at the lights - and he was booking me. Fuckwit

To which I politely replied......'Is that so, perhaps you would like to hop in my car and show me how I can break traction for a sustained period in a VR4?' He just looked at me and went 'huh?'. I then proceeded to tell him it was a 4WD - and with the road perfectly dry.....doing what he said I was doing - I would have left my gearbox at the intersection'.

Absolute wanker - pulled me because I took off quickly and had a boy racer car.

And don't get me started about the Pissant Plod who nicked me on the 'Taka's for knee downing around a corner.....

[Two Smoker]

No do tell about the cop that did you for knee down, as im sure that is going to happen to me soon ...... So far all the times i have been pulled over (luckily all in a cage) ive been respectful and polite to the cop, and they have been likewise to me.... Even the time at an on ramp i took off not fast but quickly, the car behind me was up my arse (about 6 metres) so i thought the wanted a go, no traffic around so i hoofed it was doing about 145kmh for a couple of kays with this guy following me... i was like ah i give up can't be bothered....... slow down to 110kmh, and thats when the bastard put on the disco lights Oh well i was at fault and was ready to accept the consequences...... I was respectful to him and polite, as was he..... he then let me off with a warning phew..... just a bit of a stern telling off (which was well deserved), im guessing he didnt give me a ticket due to the fact he didn't have speed gear....(not all of the Police cars are speedo tested) and it was a deserted motorway..... ah well another lesson learned........

[pete376403]

At risk of starting a Biker Angel Jihad, I find females doing a job that was previously an all male preserve (cops, customs officers, hell even vehicle testing station inspectoresses) seem to have an attitude that they have to be harder / tougher / meaner than the equivalent male. In my experience, anyway. And before anyone says they are only giving back what they recieve, this attitude has been apparent from the very first moment of any encounter.

[SPman]

At risk of starting a Biker Angel Jihad, I find females doing a job that was previously an all male preserve (cops, customs officers, hell even vehicle testing station inspectoresses) seem to have an attitude that they have to be harder / tougher / meaner than the equivalent male. In my experience, anyway. And before anyone says they are only giving back what they recieve, this attitude has been apparent from the very first moment of any encounter.

Don't like to say it, but this has been my experience, as well.
At least the male cops smile and sometimes apologise when they write out my tickets!

[Jackrat]

In a previous life I had a couple of cops on the north shore give me a real hard time but they already knew me
I had a cop stick a gun in my face in Sydney over a car that had been stolen then recovered but hadn't been taken off the books.
Four hairy Kiwi's in a hot car,,I think the cop was more worried than I was.
Other than that Iv'e not had any problems with them.

[FzerozeroT]

Much the same here Wkid, Small town NZ -thats what we do on weekends

Cop who knew my "driving style" but could never get me for anything took offence to a couple of little wheelies I did. Other cops wanted him to drop it but they couldn't be seen to have a divided front in a small town. He ended up "leaving" a few months later because he was not a team player.

[Lou Girardin]

Gee, Guys. If no-one grovels then it's no fun being a cop. May as well be a parking warden.

[Slim]

Most of the cops I've come in contact with have extremely good on the attitude front, although the incidence of being let off these days is disappearing at an alarming rate.

I only had one encounter with a cop south of Meremere who was in my face before I'd even got the side stand down (literally) and after much rightful indignation on my part, eventually backed off after checking my licence. He obviously couldn't prove he'd got me and not a car coming down the hill behind me, but pulled me over simply because I was so far in front of the field.


Next time, I'm taking name & badge number, because I've since learned that this sort of attitude is not acceptable.

[Motu]

I have had no problems with cops - be quiet and polite,they respond the same.

When I was younger I was getting stopped everywhere,they seemed to know who I was and I would get full bike checks,they were real keen to keep an eye on me.One cop even told my mother that I should look out as they had a file on me a mile long.I was kinda flattered in a way,but really,just for a few speeding tickets? A few months later someone with the same name as me went up on a major drug charge - then the harrasment stopped.Short lived fame.

[aff-man]

Only been pulled over once cop was a dick (highway patrol) was in my face read me the riot act, gave me fines for things that didn't exist (no l plate on a restricted licence) and refused to give me any information on where he had trapped me needless to say i got off the fine. But i was polite and very i don't know if submissive is the word but i spoke quitley yes sir no sir sorta stuff and he still a) was rude and offensive and b) tried to nail me with everything. He took so long looking over the bike trying to find something wrong i almost missed my 10pm restriction.

[FROSTY:Me]

I guess as you get older maybee your persona or summat changes.
I used to get the whole lecture thing whenever I got pulled over -which I must say was fairly often when i was younger.
Nowadays (touch wood) I havent had any problems with the cops
Most of my road riding is with my son on the back so I guess I ride differently :spudwhat:

[XRNR]

When I was a lad (not long ago), I had a very fast bike in its day, (a bit like you people who ride an R1 now, but a limited edition).

I was riding from Takapuna (Auckland's North shore) to the City over the harbour bridge. I overtook a plain clothes (MOT) cop on the Barry's Point onramp to the motorway. I saw him and just eased passed him at about 105-110. I kept that speed up until I passed the next car. Then as I was in front of the next car I opened it up for a bit, then slowed back to 105-110 and eased in front of the next car & so on & so on, all the time keeping any eye out where the cop was. I just wanted to slowly put a distance between him & me so that I could once again open the bike up, But do this without him being able to do me for speeding.

As I was going down the South side of the Harbour bridge I saw him catching up to me rather quickly, (Not good I thought). At the last minute I decided to take the Shelly beach off ramp & head into Ponsonby hoping he had better things to do.

Uh Uh.

He pulled me over by the Point Erin Pools, were we had a little chat about speeds & speeding & bikes (we both new he couldn't do me for anything). Most of all I think he wanted to check out my bike. Asking me how fast it would go etc etc (Smelling a trap I declined to comment, only to say that it was quite fast, I knew very well its top speed).

He was riding a Yammy 650, or 750 (can't remember what they were) All fitted out with panniers & radios. (They were quite the bees knees when they came out, the fastest cop bike of the time I believe).

He thought quite a lot of his bike & his riding (as did I, back then). At the end of our little chat & after I had told him several times that there was no way he could catch me if I decided to run as his bike was too slow, & him taking offence at that. He challenged me to a race. Back down the motorway heading Nth & up to the end, (which was Sunset road in those days).

I contemplated taking him up on it & would have loved too. But each time I decided to I came up with a reason not too. (none of them being that I might loose). I finally decided not to, on the grounds that if he lost he might not have been as sporting as he appeared to be. & he might have decided to radio ahead for a road block for me.

I was feeling a bit humiliated having decided to back down on a speed test with this guy. But I never got a ticket, had a good chat & a memory that I will cherish. (He didn't stand a chance I know, but I will never know if he knew it).

To the blond COP on the Yammy in the early 80's Thanks.

[wkid_one]

May as well be a parking warden.

In a sick thought of narcicism - I think being a parking warden would be bloody funny - that or a tow truck driver......I would love to do those jobs for a week or so......