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    MotoGP getting safer?

    Back in the day Micky Doohan et al used to get pretty banged up. These days no one seems to REALLY hurt themselves too bad.

    Seems to be as many downs just less broken bones. What's the reason you reckon? Better tyres/less high-sides/better rider protection?

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    bit of each I reckon. Also a lot of bikes are now running electronic rider aids, plus the four strokes give a smoother power delivery than the old 2 smokers.
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    The pain will be back next year. 800cc, high rpm, narrow powerband beasties will be more difficult to manage, even with electronic aids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    The pain will be back next year. 800cc
    Yeah - should be very watchable me thinks.

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    Better gear in part, plus the new riders are so tiny they bounce easily.

    But there are still some bad injuries, like whoever it was that got a handlebar through his guts last year and wrecked his spleen, liver, or whatever.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Tracks have improved significantly too. These days there isn't a MotoGP track where a rider can hit a concrete wall unless it's a super freaky 1:100000000 accident.

    I'm not entirely convinced the 800's will be peaky either. The 990cc engines are producing so much power that nobody can use it all so dropping down to 800cc doesn't necessarily mean less usable power. On the contrary, riders should be able to use the 800's to their limits. Having said that the first season will end up being the team with the biggest budget will win, ie Honda. But everyone will catch up and I bet the riders find they'll be more fun to ride. After all, Supersport 600's aren't exactly peaky, unridable beasts.
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    I heard a better idea,

    Just drop them down to 4 ratios and keep them @ 1000cc
    Smoother power delivery - easier to ride, and a hell of a lot cheaper, especially for the likes of smalll teams like Blata.

    800cc just means engines will be working harder.

    Might make the sport bike segment interesting tho 800cc r1 u never know -would it then be called an R8? And wheres that damn v5 CBR? Stick that in your gsxrk5 pipe and smoke it

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    WCM Blata don't exist any more. I don't understand what you mean about "dropping them down 4 ratios".
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    I think track safety plays a big part in it. And those damn two strokes were just so mental

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    WCM Blata don't exist any more. I don't understand what you mean about "dropping them down 4 ratios".
    4 gears instead of 6 - wider ratios. less brutal acceleration. And why do you think WCM doesnt exist anymore? Do you think well see two strokes become competitive again? And when can I get a v5 CBR???

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPeanut
    4 gears instead of 6 - wider ratios. less brutal acceleration. And why do you think WCM doesnt exist anymore? Do you think well see two strokes become competitive again? And when can I get a v5 CBR???
    Ahh I get it now - long day at work.

    Check the entry list - WCM doesn't exist anymore. Peter Clifford wound it up at the end of last year when it was apparent that no sponsorship was forthcoming. The Blata engine was crap.

    Honda have a vested interest in the 800cc capacity - they can both dominate (more money to throw at the project) and the VFR happens to be - 800cc.

    Honda already have a V3 in a test mule too. You probably won't see a V5 CBR now. The CBR will contimue to be the basis for the WSBK contender.
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    Yeah I know Blata isnt in the GP anymore what I meant was that the reason Blata did so badly is because they were forced to use an outdated engine because of a rules change, they had a sweet un lined up. Anyway I hear they are developing a v6. But I could be wrong.

    Go the VFR!!!!!!!


    But what about Two strokes? Surely they have a fighting chance now? Oh the humanity!!! Bring back the powerband!!

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    who saw the amazing recovery of the 250cc MotoGP last night? the back wheel was like 5,000,000 metres off the ground
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPeanut
    Yeah I know Blata isnt in the GP anymore what I meant was that the reason Blata did so badly is because they were forced to use an outdated engine because of a rules change, they had a sweet un lined up. Anyway I hear they are developing a v6. But I could be wrong.

    Go the VFR!!!!!!!


    But what about Two strokes? Surely they have a fighting chance now? Oh the humanity!!! Bring back the powerband!!
    No no no - WCM were the team and they started running with a modified Yamaha R1 chassis and engine, got banned for it not being enough of a prototype, and then made a deal wth Blata for them to supply engines. The engines didn't materialise when they should have and when they did turn up they were utter crap. Blata are a Czech company and make minibikes. A MotoGP engine was a step too far, and the V6 never materialised and never will.

    Two strokes are dead in the water and will never return. If they were to ressurect them (hugely unlikely) they would have to change the cc formula, probably dropping them to 3 cylinders and 400cc.
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    Its a cruel world.

    2 strokes were just 2 cool 4 school, 500cc putting out 1000cc powa

    Hey you never know, two stroke might be back if enough R&D is put into it.

    Actually now might be a good time to invest in an rg500...

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