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    Hmmm....

    The whole chipping debate is misguided and bogus imho. Its another governmental kneejerk reaction.

    Dogs, like most animals are simple creatures. Way back, when men where a lot closer to the land, we used / befriended dogs for a variety of reasons. They were generally easy to train, they provided protection and they helped with hunting / gathering amongst other things.

    Their basic makeup hasn't come a long way since those days. But the world they live in has. Therein lies half the problem.

    Dogs are strongly hierachical, and typically very protective of their pack members. Obviously they don't have our "intelligence" though. So if a dog becomes a problem because it attempted to take on another dog at a park, or bit a kid, it's the owners problem imho - it demonstrates a lack of control, and surely as a dog owner, you accept a basic duty to let the dog know what it's place in the pack is and to demonstrate a good degree of control.

    I sure as hell did.

    If i was down the park and one of my animals did that i should be punished, not the dog. It was probably just forfilling what it considered to be it's basic duties whereas i failed in mine because let the dog get into a position where it could turn to shit. The dog does as i say. I want them to obey. They do. That's my obligation to them. It protects them as much as the general public really.

    Chipping won't prevent dog attacks. That's obvious. It will possibly generate income for vets.

    It's a simple issue, the difficulty lies in how to ensure owners are fit to keep dogs, just the same way as ensuring people are fit to own guns. Very very difficult.

    The bottom line i reckon is (as in most things), it's a people problem.

    I'm avoiding the area of people owning animals predisposed to attacking and fighting, slightly different story - although i know a couple of breeders and i still think it's a person problem - you still need to demonstrate control.

    As for attacks on my own property - You have free access to my front door. My dogs will bark first. They'll bark lots and they'll bark loud. If you attempt to get access to the area they're contained in, its your own dumb fault whether you are 9 or 90 (although my animals will still probably not bite you 99% of the time).

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    eek The latest from The Green Party

    One Law For Dogs

    Press Release by Green Party at 9:59 AM, 03 May 2006

    The Green Party has drafted an amendment to the Local Government Law Reform Bill that will abolish compulsory microchipping for dogs.

    Green Party MP Metiria Turei, who is a member of the Local Government and Environment select committee, will give notice on Thursday that she intends to move the motion and expects there will be majority support on the committee for such a move.

    "We understand the National Party has also proposed a similar amendment and we are happy to compare notes with them to draft the best law possible to see compulsory microchipping of dogs scrapped.

    "We are taking a principled and proactive stand on this issue and will not prefer one group of people or dogs over another. Compulsory microchipping of dogs is not going to protect the vulnerable from dog attacks. So, instead of favouring the farm border collie over Grandma's poodle, we propose to abolish compulsory microchipping for dogs altogether.

    "If the committee, made up of four Labour MPs, four National MPs and myself, passes the amendment, as I expect, it will be reported back to the House. There it will depend on United Future's three votes. If they believe what they are saying about farm dogs, they can achieve this, and more, by voting for our amendment," Mrs Turei says.

    The Green Party amendment would continue the use of microchip transponders for dangerous or menacing dogs.

    Co-Leader Jeanette Fitzsimons says: "We hope that compulsory microchipping will be gone from our law books by the middle of the year. There is just no need to impose this unnecessary and expensive procedure on dogs and dog owners."

    "We asked the Government to demonstrate clear and compelling arguments that microchipping will prevent dog attacks, but their evidence was unconvincing. Compulsory microchipping simply cannot be justified and we won't support it.

    ENDS
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    We just discussed this here and I suppose I'd support a law making chipping mandatory IF it was followed up by a team that goes about destroying unchipped dogs.

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    i think they should chip all sheep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smorgen
    i think they should chip all sheep
    ...and potatoes
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    thats the smartest thing the greens hav ever done!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smorgen
    i think they should chip all sheep
    And let us have a button on our handle bars to asplode them when the run out on the road in front of you and then double back and then perform a backflip and charge straight at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    And let us have a button on our handle bars to asplode them when the run out on the road in front of you and then double back and then perform a backflip and charge straight at you.
    can't get focused on work today eh!
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    Typical bloody green party...
    harder to nail down than jelly.........

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    Regardless, we've decided not to chip our dog. Council can go fuck themselves.

    Bring on the revolution. Me and my dog are ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smorgen
    i think they should chip all sheep
    That's coming sooner than you may imagine. More likely to be an RFID tag than a chip, though. All cattle and deer too.
    "Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos
    thats the smartest thing the greens hav ever done!!
    One sometimes wonders why they are so keen to protect the planet when they are so rarely on it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher
    That's coming sooner than you may imagine. More likely to be an RFID tag than a chip, though. All cattle and deer too.
    shit, next will be goldfish, guinea pigs, rabbits and cats..........fucken cats should definately be chipped then shot. They do more damage to the native fauna than anything else.......bastards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smorgen
    cats..........fucken cats should definately be chipped then shot.
    But only ginga ones, they have no soul...
    "Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket
    But only ginga ones, they have no soul...
    A cat is a cat is a cat........that reminds me, i might go and find my air rifle

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