Conspiracy or coincidence?

[Macktheknife]

What do you think of this then?


"Bird Flu"

Do you know that 'bird flu' was discovered in Vietnam 9 years ago?
Do you know that barely 100 people have died in the whole world in all that time?
Do you know that it was the Americans who alerted us to the efficacy of the human antiviral TAMIFLU as a preventative.
Do you know that TAMIFLU barely alleviates some symptoms of the common flu?
Do you know that its efficacy against the common flu is questioned by a great part of the scientific community?
Do you know that against a SUPPOSED mutant virus such as H5N1, TAMIFLU barely alleviates the illness?
Do you know that to date Avian Flu affects birds only?
Do you know who markets TAMIFLU?
ROCHE LABORATORIES.
Do you know who bought the patent for TAMIFLU from ROCHE LABORATORIES in 1996?
GILEAD SCIENCES INC.
Do you know who was the then president of GILEAD SCIENCES INC. and remains a major shareholder?
DONALD RUMSFELD, the present Secretary of Defence of the USA.
Do you know that the base of TAMIFLU is crushed aniseed?
Do you know who controls 90% of the world's production of this tree?
ROCHE.
Do you know that sales of TAMIFLU were over $254 million in 2004 and more than $1000 million in 2005?
Do you know how many more millions ROCHE can earn in the coming months if the business of fear continues?

So the summary of the story is as follows:
Bush's friends decide that the medicine TAMIFLU is the solution for a pandemic that has not yet occurred and that has caused a hundred deaths worldwide in 9 years.
This medicine doesn't so much as cure the common flu.
In normal conditions the virus does not affect humans.
Rumsfeld sells the patent for TAMIFLU to ROCHE for which they pay him a fortune.
Roche acquires 90% of the global production of crushed aniseed, the base for the antivirus.
The governments of the entire world threaten a pandemic and then buy industrial quantities of the product from Roche.
So we end up paying for medicine while Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush do the business.
ARE WE CRAZY!!? OR ARE WE IDIOTS!!?


Gee I wonder if there is any truth to this?
NAAAHHHH couldnt be.

[Sniper]

You will be surprised at the amount of zombies who believe everything their wonderful goverment says. A few have known this birdflu is a load of crock and I personally believe that my immune system is strong enough to handle birdflu.

[SimJen]

Yep well everyone knows the pharmacutical companies are ripping people off and have been for decades. And governments including our own pander to their whims.

[Goblin]

Ah huh! Not surprised at all. It's big business alright. I'd like to know how many parents went & got their kids vaccinated against meningicocal.(sp?)B
All the media hype about how all kids MUST be vaccinated. Load of bollocks I reckon.

[Smorg]

Ive been saying for ages that bird flu is bullshit

[Dont_die_wondering]

its a load of crap, no offence to anyone but i think its the foreigners that bring viruses into our country.../and/or spread it to others.
you can only get bird flu by eating RAW chicken..or so ive heard..

[Smorg]

its a load of crap, no offence to anyone but i think its the foreigners that bring viruses into our country.../and/or spread it to others.
you can only get bird flu by eating RAW chicken..or so ive heard..

You can also get it by having sex with monkeys

[GR81]

its a load of crap, no offence to anyone but i think its the foreigners that bring viruses into our country.../and/or spread it to others.
you can only get bird flu by eating RAW chicken..or so ive heard..

i think they are worried its mutating and starting to spread in other ways also.
through the air etc

[WRT]

Well, you guys dont need to worry, I got ya back . . . I got good stocks coming in of a new product.

[Damon]

Ah huh! Not surprised at all. It's big business alright. I'd like to know how many parents went & got their kids vaccinated against meningicocal.(sp?)B
All the media hype about how all kids MUST be vaccinated. Load of bollocks I reckon.

A friend of mine is a pharmacist and the government made him sign a form to say he wouldn't say anything bad about the vaccine publicly!? Apparently more people have died from receiving the vaccine than directly from the disease.

Have you ever looked into what goes into vaccines? It’s pretty scary

[Hitcher]

I don't want to rain on a conspiracy, but given some of the bullshit sicked up earlier in this thread, I feel compelled to provide a bit of scientifically-based reason.

Please have a look at the following links and post no more crap until you're read them.

http://www.moh.govt.nz/pandemicinfluenza

[Winston001]

Yep well everyone knows the pharmacutical companies are ripping people off and have been for decades.

Really? Pharmaceutical companies have a lower rate of return on capital than other businesses and higher risk. See http://www.galen.org/pdrugs.asp?docID=659

I have a mate (Kiwi) who has worked for 18 years researching arthritis to try and find a treatment. Nadda. Nothing. 18 years of laboratory work, teams of scientists working on it, all paid for and no result. And that's just one company. Their competitors are all doing the same work.

How about a specific example: Pfizer, maker of Viagra, a drugs monster eh. Share price in 1999 - US$40
Share Price in 2006 - US$25

[Timber020]

So influenza was a hoax to?

[hazard02]

Do you know that 'bird flu' was discovered in Vietnam 9 years ago?
Do you know that barely 100 people have died in the whole world in all that time?
...
Do you know that to date Avian Flu affects birds only?

If it only affects birds how did people manage to die from it? Am i missing something? Or is it perhaps that conspiracy theorists are as good at mis-representing information as any government...

[Jonty]

The majority of this theory is on the money. My GF works for a NZ agency that deals with this and I am informed that the Tamiflu vaccine is next to useless. The vaccine was developed years ago and until quite recently production was about to be halted as a result - until every hypochondriac in the world demanded the "only thing that will stop bird flu". The reality is that until the virus mutates no-one will be able to develop a vaccine until about 6 month after the outbreak. Best thing to do is hope it doesn't mutate and stock up on alll your medicasion and have a healthy supply of parcetamol.