Poor old Telecom

[Paul in NZ]

Easy tiger - I think you'll find that the net wealth of people living in and around the Gore district with level of dairying at present will see a fibre optic cable there before you find one in any other rural area. My folks already have satellite broadband with a computerised shed run from my dad's palm pilot. They're not hicks anymore!! Although it is definatley fulla bogans

Sorry - I should have picked a better example. Gore would be OK, it's all the outlying districts. If the ground is easy going and a mole plough can make good progress it is pretty easy. It's when you hit more difficult terrain it starts to bite.

Difference is and always will be, if there is a genuine need for it, AND people are prepared to pay for it. It will happen.

[SPman]

In your case that would be an investment but then again maybe you should hold on to the YZF cos it must be classed as a antique by now

Bugger - knew I shouldnt have let the old girl go.......

[Scouse]

It would be if one had shares in it.
Then again, if you didn't see this particular writing on the wall 4 months ago, you deserve a hit.

I wonder how many people like Roger Kerr got the nod from Telecom before they told the behive about the leak and offloaded their shares before the market price droped

[EZAS]

You will find that New Zealand is around 10-12months behind Australia when it comes to broadband. No its not that cheap over there, No its not that fast over there either. They may have 24mb, but iinet (A MAJOR ISP in AUS) only started installing ADSL2 ports around 10months ago.

The way unbundling will work, if you have a large amount of user's in one area, we can now say "to hell with renting telecom hardware, we'll install our own", We'll only do it if there are alot of people in one area (where they can all get broadband) + the ISP can make a profit. If we're not gonna make a profit from giving you broadband why bother. For example; if its gonna cost $5,000 just to install an A~Slam for farmer Joe and his closest neighbour who lives 5 km down the road, why bother? We'd have to charge insane prices (+20 profit a month) and it would take ages before we could start seeing any gain from it.

Please remember if you live more than 5km from an exchange DONT BOTHER GETTING BROADBAND, if by some fluke they set you up with ADSL, DONT COMPLAIN WHEN IT STARTS STUFFING UP.

For the rest of us in Auckland, dont' complain when the lines get so congested that your 7.6mb connection only runs at 800kbs!!

[digsaw]

So will it get better,my 1.5mbps adsl mostly runs at 13kbps which is far worse than the 36kbps that i got on dialup.
The service i pay for i sure dont get even tho i am onl 2k from telephone exchange,if this was the way i treated my customers i amsure that my bizz would fold super fast.

[paturoa]

Telescum are the biggest theiving w........s in this country. As soon as there is an alternative, I'm gone!

ahemm - prize for biggest theiving ..... would actually be Dr M Cullen.

At least with tcom, petrol companies, power companies etc you get something and sometimes even a choice.

So tell me again wot I get for 12.5% on top of 39%?

[Fatjim]

Exactly my point.

No one is going to run fibre through Gore are they?

Well yes they are, actually.

[EZAS]

So will it get better,my 1.5mbps adsl mostly runs at 13kbps which is far worse than the 36kbps that i got on dialup.
The service i pay for i sure dont get even tho i am onl 2k from telephone exchange,if this was the way i treated my customers I am sure that my bizz would fold super fast.

No1 offers 1.5mb connections on ADSL. If your on 1mbps you should sync with the D~Slam at 1280 as roughly 25% of the connection is used by the exchange. If you are only gettin 13kbps that means it would take you around 3 hours to load this page. I'm not sure who told you, that you were 2km from the exchange?

[EZAS]

Well yes they are, actually.

Carbon Fibre Muffler on a bike, flying down the highway doesn't count.

[paturoa]

So will it get better,my 1.5mbps adsl mostly runs at 13kbps which is far worse than the 36kbps that i got on dialup.
The service i pay for i sure dont get even tho i am onl 2k from telephone exchange,if this was the way i treated my customers i amsure that my bizz would fold super fast.

Priestly and co are the biggest cons around... (behind pollies - though to be fair they are theiving bstards too)

Adding more and faster DSL to the current cables will slow everyone down. Don't for a second thing that unbundling will get u better speed.

U guys need to check your BIG Bs and little bs, Bytes = 8 bits.

So if speed is your bitch then it will be getting worse !

[digsaw]

With telecums Xtra Broadband
EXPLORER the top speed ever seen on my speed test is 1.5 MBPS,and yes i can see the exchange from my house.

[digsaw]

Right now the speed is 186kbps which better than most times.

[paturoa]

With telecums Xtra Broadband
EXPLORER the top speed ever seen on my speed test is 1.5 MBPS,and yes i can see the exchange from my house.

The rate u buy is max line / electrical rate you get between your modem and the other end of the tcom network. Read the manual for your modem it will tell u how to check the line rate that your modem "tunes" to when its going.

Not sure where u get your speed test from.

If u have the Adventure (3.5 M ?) then the line rate should be at least that.

If u can see the exchange and your line rate is still low then it is more than likely your house wiring that is the problem.

[danb]

Telecoms network at this current time despite what people think is more that capable of having everyone on ADSL running at 3.5mb and faster – Telecoms core routers (Juniper) are laughing at the traffic that is flowing through them and they are only being used 20 – 30% of the possible traffic they can route. The fibre running to “most” of the exchanges is running over + 2Gb/s. All I can see out of this is that Telecom is just a bunch of thieving brasteds as far as what they are charging the ISP for data therefore forwarded onto the customer. The other problem is that the ISP’s are throttling there customers something chronic, especially on P2P applications. I know for a fact the majority of the webpage’s etc I visit 80% of it is cached in there transparent proxy’s. I still think the ISP’s can do a little better and as for throttling, it should be banned.
Whenever choosing an ISP you need to find out what infrastructure they have, If they have a slow Internet connection to the outside world (Sothern Cross Cable) and there routers overloaded, It is once again the ISP that is the bottleneck.
I pissed of with the Xtra add on TV at the moment – to me its deceiving - how the hell can anyone only use 200mb in one month. I use that in 1 day and that’s only browsing website – not P2P stuff. Besides $29.95 or whatever the price is ridicules for only 200mb – dial up is way better for that in comparison for that amount of data. Xtra is the last ISP I would recommend to anyone.

I do think telecom deserved what they got but I do feel sorry for the shareholders however.

[paturoa]

Telecoms network at this current time despite what people think is more that capable of having everyone on ADSL running at 3.5mb and faster – Telecoms core routers ....

Unbundling is about the copper access stuff not the "core".