Poor old Telecom

**Finn** · 5th May 2006, 16:24

Gattung was an strategic appointment to appease all the dykes in government. Having met her and being exposed to the changes in Telecom since she became CEO, I can say that she is totally incompetent. She is also a blithering idiot with no presence.

She had to front up today to investors in Sydney. She is in the firing line.

**The_Dover** · 5th May 2006, 16:32

Give her the chair!

**Paul in NZ** · 5th May 2006, 17:06

Originally Posted by Finn

Gattung was an strategic appointment to appease all the dykes in government. Having met her and being exposed to the changes in Telecom since she became CEO, I can say that she is totally incompetent. She is also a blithering idiot with no presence.

She had to front up today to investors in Sydney. She is in the firing line.

Then I stand by my post. How clever and capable to get yourself into that position? I never said she was any good....

**Paul in NZ** · 5th May 2006, 17:07

Originally Posted by The_Dover

Give her the chair!

No, I think Roderick is the Chairman.... oh..... the other chair eh!

**WINJA** · 5th May 2006, 17:53

Originally Posted by The_Dover

Give her the chair!

SHE SHOULD BE FIRED , SHES HAD AGES TO GET TELECOM UP TO SCRATCH TO PREVENT THIS ROLL OUT , THE ROLL OUT MEANS SHE FAILED, THERES GONNA BE SHIT LOADS OF REDUNDANCYS AT TELECOM WHICH IS GREAT CAUSE ITS TOP HEAVY WITH HR TYPE OFFICE STAFF PEOPLE , THE WINNERS WILL BE THE TRADESMEN THAT LOOK AFTER THE NETWORK AND EXCHANGE, I DONT SEE HOW PRICES CAN GET WORSE TELECOM WILL CHARGE ME $500 FOR FIRST TIME CONECTION TO THE NETWORK WHICH RUNS PAST MY GATE

**Lias** · 5th May 2006, 17:54

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Well thats just brilliant!

Actually, she is a very clever and capable person that has a HUGE workload. One that would probably kill you in 3 weeks. I'm jealous of her salary too but I don't have the balls to make the sacrifices she has. My hope is you will go back and delete that part of your post...

It was a PT mate. I wouldnt seriously wish rape on anyone.. But really would you shag her? I wouldnt :-P

Thou I do think her salary is immoral.. It might be the socialist in me coming out but I really think that people shouldnt be allowed to have such rediculously huge salaries. Make 10x the national average the salary cap or someit :-)

**Zapf** · 5th May 2006, 18:33

Originally Posted by danb

Im presuming then you are still on Dialup if you are going to say that. 2Mb has only just got good enough to stream video on. Why put up with slow downloads when you don’t have to in this day and age. Faster the better!

That’s why I said the ISP have allot to do with it and they need to sort there networks out as well.

Has anyone really known to max out there 2 or 3.5mb connections on P2P applications for a long duration of time?

Telecom has a 51% share in the Southern Cross Cable - As for now they should / could provide cheaper International Traffic to the ISP’s.

Very true about the cost of building a decent infrastructure - Telecom now has it so I don’t know why they are not using it and keeping there customers comfy. I call it shitting in there own nest lol

stream video... so this is not so much about internet... but to replace the TV and broadcasting all together? in that case lets run cable or fiber into every house then.

ISP's can't sort the network out with Telecom controlling most of the major access points for traffic into and out of the country. Higher local NZ speeds won't mean much, as we'll still be running around our little cage in NZ. But we have to realise we are one of the most remote countries in the world.

Yes.. I know ppl who will max out their P2P apps non stop if they have unlimited data allowance.

ISP's havne't been making any $ from selling broadband to the public, where is the dollar going to come from for improving the network?

I think over all what I am trying to say is... increasing competion is good. But it also needs to be controlled to an extend so that the the country overall benfits from it. Not some investors in Aussy.

**danb** · 5th May 2006, 21:28

Originally Posted by Zapf

stream video... so this is not so much about internet... but to replace the TV and broadcasting all together? in that case lets run cable or fiber into every house then.

ISP's can't sort the network out with Telecom controlling most of the major access points for traffic into and out of the country. Higher local NZ speeds won't mean much, as we'll still be running around our little cage in NZ. But we have to realise we are one of the most remote countries in the world.

Yes.. I know ppl who will max out their P2P apps non stop if they have unlimited data allowance.

ISP's havne't been making any $ from selling broadband to the public, where is the dollar going to come from for improving the network?

I think over all what I am trying to say is... increasing competion is good. But it also needs to be controlled to an extend so that the the country overall benfits from it. Not some investors in Aussy.

Speaking of cable TV- who owns the cable TV network in Auckland that got installed about 6 years ago - that is the light green, round boxes every 2 gates in your street. Does this system work and is anyone in kb on it? Can Internet be run over this?
It seems that the majority of Auckland has this installed.

Being a remote county has nothing to go with it and no excuse- We have a very very fast connection to the outside world 2x @ 480Gbs each using the Southern Cross Cable and let alone all the other fibre that is lying around. More info - http://www.southerncrosscables.com/ Telecoms share is 500Gbs aprox to this.

All I hope out of this all is that telecom can lower its prices for competition. If I was going to choose between as ISP that used its own equipment in an exchange and telecoms for the same price, I know who I would stick to and that is telecom. I don’t think any other ISP could match the same support and reliability.

**Ghost Lemur** · 5th May 2006, 22:43

Originally Posted by Zapf

stream video... so this is not so much about internet... but to replace the TV and broadcasting all together? in that case lets run cable or fiber into every house then.

ISP's can't sort the network out with Telecom controlling most of the major access points for traffic into and out of the country. Higher local NZ speeds won't mean much, as we'll still be running around our little cage in NZ. But we have to realise we are one of the most remote countries in the world.

Yes.. I know ppl who will max out their P2P apps non stop if they have unlimited data allowance.

ISP's havne't been making any $ from selling broadband to the public, where is the dollar going to come from for improving the network?

I think over all what I am trying to say is... increasing competion is good. But it also needs to be controlled to an extend so that the the country overall benfits from it. Not some investors in Aussy.

Of course Broadband is for high bandwidth multimedia uses, of which filesharing is just one (although the one you seem to be most obsessed with). If all you do is surf the 'net and send emails you don't need broadband and might as well settle for a 256k connection (no 256k is NOT broadband, irrespective of what Telecom tried to tell you).

Have you even read the cabinet paper? They suggesting doing exactly what you say in your last paragraph you want them to do. Although no mention of foreign ownership. You do realise that Telecom is 75% foreign ownership in total don't you?

Personally I thoughly enjoyed reading the paper in question. It was well thought out, backed by facts, and the final solution is no silver bullet but rather a combination of things of which LLU is just one. Other factors are increased investment by government, regulation, and my personal favourite... Operational Seperation. They do mention accounting seperation and ownership seperation too as possible options. But I don't think accounting seperation goes far enough, and ownership seperation goes too far. Operation Seperation was the sweet spot for BT, and I truely believe it would be for Telecom too. Hell, BT is now MORE profitable than before price regulation, before LLU.

I could rant on this topic all night. Needless to say I put my money where my mouth is and am investing some of my motorcycle savings into Telecom shares when they bottom out. Only investors with short term interests in mind are selling. Oh and silly people who buy because the price is high and "everyone" is buying and sell because "everyone" is selling.

Competition is good for EVERYONE, bring it on.

BTW do you know how much SCC charge per Gig of traffic to NZ? $1, seriously that is the wholesale price. Of course Telecom doesn't mind this as it's taking from one hand to the other. But it's painful for anyone else even thinking of offering reasonable/no cap plans to consumers. Hopefully though Telecoms part in SCC will come under further scrutiny.

Anyway I was pausing this rant...

*takes a deep breath, counts to 10*

**Shadows** · 5th May 2006, 23:33

What cracks me up is now that Gattung woman will have to actually do some work for her squaziillion dollar salary instead of sitting around on her fat arse (which gets fatter and fatter every day, thickening like the plot of a good thriller) laughing at all the suckers who have no choice but to pay whatever they dictate beacuse they otherwise have basically no choice.

**Zapf** · 6th May 2006, 00:03

Originally Posted by danb

Speaking of cable TV- who owns the cable TV network in Auckland that got installed about 6 years ago - that is the light green, round boxes every 2 gates in your street. Does this system work and is anyone in kb on it? Can Internet be run over this?
It seems that the majority of Auckland has this installed.

Being a remote county has nothing to go with it and no excuse- We have a very very fast connection to the outside world 2x @ 480Gbs each using the Southern Cross Cable and let alone all the other fibre that is lying around. More info - http://www.southerncrosscables.com/ Telecoms share is 500Gbs aprox to this.

All I hope out of this all is that telecom can lower its prices for competition. If I was going to choose between as ISP that used its own equipment in an exchange and telecoms for the same price, I know who I would stick to and that is telecom. I don’t think any other ISP could match the same support and reliability.

yea still have that little green box outside our house..

keep in mind that you can't use the whole 480Gbs x 2 for internet thou. there are lot of other things that runs in the background.

maybe its a good time now to get a job at Telecom... all the change aya.!

**N4CR** · 6th May 2006, 00:15

HAHA SHAME HTOSE FAGGOTS HAD IT COMING I LAUGHED WHEN I SAW THE SHARE PRICE PLUMMETING THOSE CUNTS HAD IT COMING FUCK THEM FUCK THE INTERNETS AND FUCK OFF THEIR COMPUTERS. STUPID RIPOFF SHIT WHAT TEH FUCK DO YOU CALL 128K UPLOAD? NOTHING, FUCK THEM.

I HOPE GATTUNG LOOSES HER 700K PAY CHECK AND GOES TOW ORK ON KRD. AND WEASEL SHOULD BE SHOT FOR WORKING FOR HTE SPAWN OF SATAN.

FUCK TELECOM, THANKs FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THOUGH, BITCHES.

**Shadows** · 6th May 2006, 01:13

Originally Posted by Lias

Also, Theresa gauttang seriously needs to be gangraped to death by a horde of wellhung pornstars. Assuming they could stop vomitting long enough to shag her to death.

Bwahahahahahaahaah