Please blow in this

[Big Dog]

Right on!

I get tested on average three times a year.
I always get rewarded with a smile and a :spudwave:

I reckon the reason I used to get tested so often is I used to sober drive a lot.

[marty]

I was told by an officer at a check point that insufficient airflow stil registers as a fail.

once you have been REQUIRED to provide a sample of breath, an insufficient blow into the alcotech can (and after a warning probably would be) deemed a refusal, however when used as a sniffer, the pump draws air across the test chip, so a positive air pressure is not required. there is no offence for refusing to speak 'into' the sniffer, however if you did you would inevitably find yourself being 'required to undergo a breath test........' and basically waste your own time, especially if you haven't been drinking, but putting you at significant risk if you have....

[MikeL]

A year or so back there seemed to be more frequent random checks and I got breathalyzed several times. Hasn't happened recently, and never on the bike.
Of course, the fact that it's 9:20 on a Saturday evening and I'm at home in front of the computer probably explains a few things...
Seriously, if I'm on the bike I NEVER drink. IF we go out in the car my wife always drives back. Most of the time if we go to the pub we walk to the local.
But usually I just drink at home...

[spudchucka]

Now the story I heard by the way was that every time a load of cops gets through college they do a month on breth patrol

It isn't mandatory but a few districts tend to let new cops cut their teeth on the local booze bus for a few months when they first graduate.

[spudchucka]

I haven't had to deal with those 'fail youth' pr!cks some of you fellas mentioned a few months back yet, but I'm sure I'd tell them in no round-a-bout terms to kindly fuc|< the hell off and get a life...

Then you would probably get yourself locked up. Showing the failed youth result is simply informing the driver of the test result. Get over the idea that it is some kind of insult.

[Lou Girardin]

Then you would probably get yourself locked up. Showing the failed youth result is simply informing the driver of the test result. Get over the idea that it is some kind of insult.

There is case law that says, telling a cop to fuck off is not insulting language or disorderly behaviour. The judge held that, by the nature of the Officers job he had to expect that reaction from some members of the public.
So, the failed youth bullshit is an even better reason to tell him to fuck off.

[Her_C4]

I get pulled up in my car a lot - checking my exhaust< >, rego and warrant checks as well as breath testing, but not on my bike .....I prolly haven't had it long enough!!

The most frustrating experience that I had was not long after I moved to the Hutt and didn't know my way around at all. It was nearly 4am and I was really really tired and really really confused about why I couldn't get over the other side of the railway line into Whites Line.

I was driving really slowly trying to read the road signs and a car pulled up behind me .... seeing I was driving so slowly and peering through the windscreen I thought I would be considerate and get out of the way by turning the corner and pulling into the side of the road while I figured out what my options were. (I was sure I had been going round in circles and my passenger (Wellingtonian) had passed out in the seat beside me so was no help...).

The car behind me was a cop and flashed his lights and gave a burst on his siren... god only knows what for I was already on the side of the road. I got out of the car and he crouched down behind his door, shone a light in my eyes and directed me to the footpath.

I aquiesced and waited while his (female) partner asked me whether I had been drinking, whose car it was, why my friend was slumped into the passenger seat, where I worked, how long I had worked there - and wrote down all my contact details in the little notebook (I had had three glasses of wine from about 6 oclock in the evening).

She also asked me why I was driving slowly and I explained that I was lost and trying to find my way back to Whites Line, and she asked me to wait on the footpath in the freezing cold whilst her partner checked my car over - again ..... and again....

Finally he went back to the patrol car and I could hear him calling it in, so I waited and waited until his partner called out that I could sit in the car.

He came up and asked me to talk the talk (name and address into the meter).... and with what I can only describe as a triumphant expression and a flourish, produced a breathalyser and told me to blow into it.

I did - and he read the result and passed it to his partner and went back to the patrol car.

About another 6 or so minutes passed and she came back to the drivers side to tell me that I could go.

I pulled off up the road very slowly - and had not even got 200 hundreds when he raced up behind me with his lights flashing and his siren on again. I pulled over but didn't bother getting out and he came up with the breathalyser and told me to blow into it again. He was very young as well as being very arrogant and rude the whole time and did not bother to explain why he had to do it again, and when I asked why he just stared at me. :eyepoke:

I blew into the breathalyser again and his partner came up and took it off him - as she walked back to the car she called back over her shoulder for me to go...

The whole thing took about 35 minutes.....and then I STILL had to try and find my way home.....

What a prick

[Hitcher]

I can only ever remember being stopped and asked for some breath on two occasions. As opposed to the many times I've been stopped and asked to pay money...

[spudchucka]

There is case law that says, telling a cop to fuck off is not insulting language or disorderly behaviour. The judge held that, by the nature of the Officers job he had to expect that reaction from some members of the public.
So, the failed youth bullshit is an even better reason to tell him to fuck off.

And its a fine line between telling a cop to fuck off and crossing over to Disorderly Behaviour (depending on the circumstances), which is real easy to prove so lock the big mouthed twit up.

[marty]

you could still be locked up for offensive behaviour, be strip searched, beaten up, spend the night in the cells, go to court the next day and so on. do you think the cop really cares if he loses a not guilty? a pca for unlawful arrest is never going to go anywhere, as the ingredients for the offence are complete - it's up to the court to decide whether they hold to the appropriate case law, given each case should be heard on it's merits. ffs lou, you are sounding like a bitter and twisted ex-mot cop who was too short to get into the police

[MikeL]

Some interesting attitudes revealed in these comments. I certainly don't condone offensive behaviour, and telling a police officer to f*ck off seems gratuitous and unnecessary if the officer is only doing his job and acting within the law. I'm sure that the police are subjected to a lot of deliberate provocation by people with a chip on their shoulder and no doubt at times it requires a lot more than the average human forbearance to put up with this sort of behaviour. On the other hand the reference to being strip-searched and beaten up as well as the ineffectiveness of complaining to the PCA hints at the arrogant abuse of power that anecdotally at least seems to lie behind the increasing loss of respect that the police are suffering. It is a vicious circle and to break it requires more creative thinking than just increasing repression.

[Drunken Monkey]

Then you would probably get yourself locked up. Showing the failed youth result is simply informing the driver of the test result. Get over the idea that it is some kind of insult.

Oh, wait a minute...

I need to give you this...



Bite me, cop lover!

[pete376403]

Apparently they are getting a lot of references to rapist behaviour at present.

[jimbo600]

Oh, wait a minute...

I need to give you this...



Bite me, cop lover!

Hoho nice one DM.

Telling a HP to fuck off is wholly appropriate, especially when they hang around speed change areas as they are not acting within the law. According to their speed enforcement policy they are not to target folks within 250m of a speed change (when going from high to low). So if this happens then fuck off is the correct response. As for disorderly behaviour or offensive behaviour...yeah right, someone actually has to be offended for that to occur and I cannot believe that a cop would be offended by bad language. I on the other hand get very fuckin' offended when some twat HP says, and I quote "don't get bitter mate, I just saved your life" after presenting me with a ticket for going 57 in a 50 zone.

I tell ya I hate each and every one of those HP idiots.

[Slim]

Reasonably regularly, certainly too often to count now.

A couple of classics: the entire southbound Southern Motorway was closed off just before Mt Wellington for breath testing one Friday night on a holiday weekend (possibly Labour weekend???), which is actually a clever spot to do it, because the last exit is Ellerslie/Penrose & there's a corner in the motorway before you hit Mt Wellington so you can't see them & there's a far enough distance after the corner for the tailback not to be seen too.

There was a booze bus set up on the ride home from Paeroa to Hamilton this year, just across SH27 near Tahuna. But not a single cop sighted as I crossed the plains to that point, where I got caught last year.