Tweaking the TL

**DEATH_INC.** · 12th May 2004, 19:40

Originally Posted by duckman

Or you can install the TRE - Timing retardant eliminator!!!

Yep,or do it yourself and save $$$$$

**spudchucka** · 12th May 2004, 19:58

Originally Posted by duckman

Or you can install the TRE - Timing retardant eliminator!!!

Don't they cost about $160.00 to buy and all it is is a $0.05c resistor?? Rip off.

**BurnCycle** · 13th May 2004, 01:19

Ducman, personal preference mainly. I withdrew a deposit on a TLR when I found this TLS.

Firestormer, The Bitubo is a conventional shock/damper unit so the rotary gets binned for good. The spring on the Bitubo is also rated for my weight. The ride has improved so much.

As for the Timing Retard… I have taken care of that. I went with a more advanced unit known as an Advanced Timing Retard Eliminator (ATRE). It’s an active unit that allows me to program what gears are mapped and what gear they’re mapped to. It also does not affect the neutral map like other TRE’s do. Click here for a pic.

**Banditmad** · 13th May 2004, 12:50

Nice job. I rode a TLS for the first time the other day. Fun to ride and quite a rush from 6,500rpm on. If you're looking for more power I'd recommend Brian Bernard. His TLR racebike with very little engine mods and home made mufflers makes 135hp at the rear wheel. He is very reasonably priced, enthusiastic and knows what he's doing. Keep up the good work.

**White trash** · 13th May 2004, 13:01

Originally Posted by Banditmad

Nice job. I rode a TLS for the first time the other day. Fun to ride and quite a rush from 6,500rpm on. If you're looking for more power I'd recommend Brian Bernard. His TLR racebike with very little engine mods and home made mufflers makes 135hp at the rear wheel. He is very reasonably priced, enthusiastic and knows what he's doing. Keep up the good work.

I understand (please correct me if I'm wrong) that Brians TL had TL1KS heads with "R" Cams and all sorts of wierd goings on. Thing's a bloody rocketship though

**DEATH_INC.** · 13th May 2004, 13:09

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Don't they cost about $160.00 to buy and all it is is a $0.05c resistor?? Rip off.

Yep, that's about it......
Done properly,they don't affect the neutral map either......it's a seperate wire...
Your active one sounds interesting,but on all the Zooks I've done no-one ever wanted to get rid of it in any gear......

**Banditmad** · 13th May 2004, 16:32

Sorry mate. Can't comment on the particulars of what he used as I didn't ask. He said that the mods were generally the same as I'd done to my Bandit. Planed head, mild porting, reprofiled cams and tune.

**BurnCycle** · 14th May 2004, 00:04

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

Yep, that's about it......
Done properly,they don't affect the neutral map either......it's a seperate wire...
Your active one sounds interesting,but on all the Zooks I've done no-one ever wanted to get rid of it in any gear......

TL's are a different beast when it comes to the TRE. It's twitchy FI made the lower RMP throttle more of an off/on switch. Since the TL makes a fair amount of power/torque at lower RPM the TR restriction is far more noticeable and basic street-ability is affected. A basic TRE will indeed affect the neutral map; this is why a switched TRE has become so popular with the TL crowd. Cold morning starts have been reported to be a real biatch without one [switch].

As for more power… The R is another great source for parts, both the cams and pistons can get the S moving a little faster. I’m still working on utilizing the power the bike currently has, so I’m not in any rush to crack open motor yet. Besides I’m happy with the way its running.

**DEATH_INC.** · 16th May 2004, 20:54

Originally Posted by BurnCycle

TL's are a different beast when it comes to the TRE. It's twitchy FI made the lower RMP throttle more of an off/on switch. Since the TL makes a fair amount of power/torque at lower RPM the TR restriction is far more noticeable and basic street-ability is affected. A basic TRE will indeed affect the neutral map; this is why a switched TRE has become so popular with the TL crowd. Cold morning starts have been reported to be a real biatch without one [switch].[/url]

Done two TL's, an 's' and a 'r',no probs with either......

**BurnCycle** · 31st May 2004, 05:27

Finally got my vacuum pump (Mityvac) to do the rear caliper swap (GSXR 1k) and fluid flush. The swap was too easy and the only real thing to note is that the banjo bolts for the two calipers have different thread pitches.

For your viewing pleasure...
http://www.mariposaderojo.com/Pics/T.../RCaliper1.jpg
http://www.mariposaderojo.com/Pics/T.../RCaliper2.jpg
http://www.mariposaderojo.com/Pics/T.../RCaliper3.jpg

Oh, and a sneak peak of things to come... This arrived last Friday.
http://www.mariposaderojo.com/Pics/TLS/Stuff/Swing2.jpg

**BurnCycle** · 14th June 2004, 12:23

I found a guy selling a Yosh High mount carbon fiber exhaust close by to me. He was selling if for next to nothing (comparatively) so I jumped on the change to get it...

http://www.mariposaderojo.com/Pics/T...04/TLYosh8.jpg

**DEATH_INC.** · 16th June 2004, 21:35

Hmmm,that swingarm looks a little like a gsxr750 unit.......

**SPman** · 16th June 2004, 21:59

Just wont let this topic die will I.

No probs - its great to see how its developing. - just dont post a pic of a binned bike...........

**BurnCycle** · 24th June 2004, 12:54

Another day another box at the door and another bump for this post

This time with the 520 conversion. STEALTH sprocket 40t (+2) / 17 front and RK chain. The stock chain is looking good for ~12k km of use on this bike but the chain has to be broken in order to install the TLR swing arm (goes through the bracing), might as well go with an upgrade.

http://www.mariposaderojo.com/Pics/T...f/520Stuff.jpg