A good argument

**Lazy7** · 9th May 2006, 22:43

So, and I dont mean this in a nasty way - but us KB'ers can argue up a storm.

And I was having a conversation with a friend who does law today and she raised an interesting one that had us arguing for quite some time. Heres the thing.

Two men in the UK were charged with rape. The basis of the charge was as follows:

A husband asked two of his mates for help. He said that his wife had a very strong rape fetish and that she really wanted to roll play the act of getting raped but he was unable to do this convincingly. He had suggested to his wife that he could find two men who could pretend to break into their house late one night and perform the rollplay for her benefit.

The husband was quite convincing, his two mates agreed to the deed, and so one night, the two men forcibly gang raped the wife.

Unfortunately, and quite sickly, the wife had no idea of the plan, had no rape fetish, definitely no want to be raped by the two men and went on to press charges.

Should the two men be punished for rape?

**Sniper** · 9th May 2006, 22:45

Yes, they should not have done it without the womens consent

**SwanTiger** · 9th May 2006, 22:45

Originally Posted by Lazy7

Should the two men be punished for rape?

Yes.

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**NotaGoth** · 9th May 2006, 22:48

I agree with Sniper.

**Lazy7** · 9th May 2006, 22:49

Originally Posted by Sniper

Yes, they should not have done it without the womens consent

The entire proposition was to rollplay the encounter without the womans consent.

if the two men were led to believe to make the whole scenario as real as possible. legally, are they liable for the outcome?

**Jantar** · 9th May 2006, 22:51

Yes, they should be convicted, but because they believed they had consent they should receive the lightest legal penalty. I believe that under British law a husband cannot be convicted of raping his wife. But he can be convicted of conspiracy to cause harm, and as such should receive the maximum penalty.

**Motu** · 9th May 2006, 23:04

I wish I had a friend like that.....

**oldrider** · 9th May 2006, 23:06

Originally Posted by Jantar

Yes, they should be convicted, but because they believed they had consent they should receive the lightest legal penalty. I believe that under British law a husband cannot be convicted of raping his wife. But he can be convicted of conspiracy to cause harm, and as such should receive the maximum penalty.

My thoughts are that Jantar is on the right track, the husband was deceitful and conspired against all parties. He should get maximum penalty.
This may not be such an unusual fetish, be carefull out there!

**onearmedbandit** · 9th May 2006, 23:09

Agree with Jantar as well.

**u4ea** · 9th May 2006, 23:11

Originally Posted by oldrider

My thoughts are that Jantar is on the right track, the husband was deceitful and conspired against all parties. He should get maximum penalty.
This may not be such an unusual fetish, be carefull out there!

............so is it safe to say keep those digicams on for all future escapades....................................have the proof then..............

**wendigo** · 9th May 2006, 23:24

Certainly is a good argument...

**Karma** · 9th May 2006, 23:32

Not the two guys fault... they were stupid but not guilty...

They entered into a contract with the husband of sorts, and as such it's the husbands fault...

Of course, you could ask what the wife was doing out of the kitchen at the time...

**jazbug5** · 9th May 2006, 23:37

Come on, how stupid were they..? There's a bit of a difference between role playing and genuine fear: I really think most people would be able to tell the difference. However, if they really were set up to do it by the husband then the foul pr*ck deserves the harshest punishment available... by law or otherwise.