Forum whore
Weird thing is not two months ago they were claiming that they couldn't drop fuel prices because they bought oil on a 6 monthly basis and had paid for it 6 months ahead of time. As soon as the Brent Crude index rockets up they up the prices.
They are definitely liars and thieves, but worst of all they think their customer base is stupid.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Easy Biker
I doubt they think we are stupid, just that we have no choice as to where we buy fuel - so captive we are.Originally Posted by Jim2
Perhaps I should have bought a diesel then I would have a choice as I laughed at that rerun of Top Gear on Sunday night when they ran the Volvo on vege oil - had to be used cooking oil they said for more go - they did strain the food crumbs out of it though. Cost was 3p a litre they said plus I think 26p tax. Damn taxes.
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Merv
Nana
That may just be why it took nearly a year for the decreased production, caused by americans stealing oil it was having trouble buying, actually drove prices up.
They went up almost immediately in AUS and in USA.
Nana
Selling a petrol price is never going to be easy.
There are taxes, barrel costs, refining, distribution, staff advertising, and investors all going in to the mix on a product that is the most begrudged purchase.
And a purchase most people see as involuntary.
Ask any oil price exec and they will tell you they miss the fixed pricing of the regulated 80's as much as comp techs miss the dotcom era. When there was a guaranteed 7c return per litre for each stage.
Very few can make that much nowadays because of all the companies who are happy to lose x cents a litre to get your discretionary dollar into their C-Store.
that's what i was doing. i wanted to hire a go-fast vauxhaull but the fuel costs on conversion was just too much. the corsa was 25 quid (plus gas) a day to hire unlimited miles in the uk, in scotland we got a Seat for 20 quid a day (plus gas) all incl. shit the Seat could go too. their wages though are not quite as strong as ours - teachers/cops etc on 30k pounds (here on 40k minimum), cars about the same pound for $, insurance over there very expensive though, esp. for large capacity bikes and oft-stolen cars (subarus etc). beer is expensive at the clubs.
we have it pretty good really. i'd rather live here. by far.
Deus ex ukulele
I hope all you Aucklanders enjoy the roading network the rest of us motorists are subsidising for your driving/riding pleasure...
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Nana
Most definately, and as often as pssible, but would you mind chipping it to put in some chicaines on the way home
Geriatric hippie
IMO the price of gas is not a real issue, especially for the owners of late model cars. Figure it out, a new Mazda 6 (for example) is going to devalue at a rate of around $230 to $250 a week (!!!) in the first year. What's another $5 on your tank of gas?
Of course, for those of us who live in the real world, it bloody sucks...
ACC - It's where the Enron accountants all went.
I'd rather be thinking
$1.23 a litre and still going up. Omigod, soon it will cost me $10 to fill up my Honda.
Age is too high a price to pay for maturity
Forum whore
Ask any Oil Surveying executive (Brother-In-Law is a petrologist with Schlumberger) and they'll tell you that price regulation has little to do with the cost of production, shipping, or handling. I don't object to Global Corporations making ends meet and a profit. I do object to being sold inconsistent stories over both the long and short term They would get more respect from me if they said, "Well it all comes from the same refinery, and we really can't be bothered competing on a brand basis in NZ so we decided to just charge the same, and jack the price when we think we can get away with it".Selling a petrol price is never going to be easy.
There are taxes, barrel costs, refining, distribution, staff advertising, and investors all going in to the mix on a product that is the most begrudged purchase.
And a purchase most people see as involuntary.
Ask any oil price exec and they will tell you they miss the fixed pricing of the regulated 80's as much as comp techs miss the dotcom era. When there was a guaranteed 7c return per litre for each stage.
Very few can make that much nowadays because of all the companies who are happy to lose x cents a litre to get your discretionary dollar into their C-Store.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
#3
BASTARDS !!!
At least Honda are on the way with a hydrogen car that can do 160km/h.
World leaders don't ya know
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Have you ridden in Auck metro lately, Hitcher? There's not much enjoyment in it. Lots of adrenaline though. Why not have your tax money back and some of our population too.
Forum whore
Hydrogen is Waaay too expensive to produce to ever be a viable alternative fuel with current production techniques. Using electricity to split hydrogen from sea water requires at least as much energy in the form of electricity as you will get from the hydrogen. Other production methods create more carbon dioxide than current internal combustion engines. One of the plans for dealing with the excess carbon dioxide is pumping it into abandoned oil wellsBASTARDS !!!
At least Honda are on the way with a hydrogen car that can do 160km/h.
World leaders don't ya know.
Physicists also say that "Hydrogen is big". By that they mean it is difficult to store. It is light so it takes up heaps of space therefore the "big" comment. One way to reduce the amount of space it takes up is to store it in liquid form. But that requires shielding which is heavy so you start getting into the law of diminishing returns. Another way to store it is titanium chips as titanium loves Hydrogen and soaks it up into its dense matrix. But you have to heat it up to get the Hydrogen out, so there is basically two choices to get a comparable range from a Hydrogen powered car to a Hydrocarbons based propulsion system. You can have something in your car so cold that if you accidentally touch it your finger gets frozen and snaps off, or you can have a really intense fire.
One hydrogen atom says to the other, " I've lost my electron!", and the other says, "Are you sure?", and the first one says, "I'm positive!".
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Deus ex ukulele
An oldie but a goodie!
Geothermal can also be used to generate hydrogen -- Iceland is investing hugely in these systems. Fuel cells are the future!
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Forum whore
The geothermal method creates huge amounts of carbon dioxide. I think the demand for hydrogen fuel will be overtaken by changing social circumstances, the increasing efficiency of the petrol and diesel engine, and possibly even fusion power generation technologies. The cost of Hydrogen fuel, including fuel cell technology, is enormous, particularly environmentally as this fuel source requires power generation that increases carbon dioxide emmissions.
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