KB racing sponsorship yet again!

**Racey Rider** · 16th May 2006, 22:15

I still don't see why KB'ers that don't race would want to push money at Kb'ers that do. Whats the difference if someone said, "I going on a South Island tour. Would KB Racers like to fund me?"
It's Our hobbie,, we should pay for it or find sponsorship ourselves.

I'm all for us finding our own Sponsorship and thats what I am endeavoring to do. If there is a hand out I'll except it (Thankyou), but I feel better about a two way benefit, where I provide my sponsor with something in return.

Any KB racers fund could bring resentment if certain people in charge had to choose who the money should go to. And we don't need that do we.

A KB fund for pit covers, tyre changing gear, coffee machine for all Kb'ers to use sounds doable to me.
Is there anything we as racers can do to contribute to this fund????
Dare I say -- do flag Marshalling for car club events to make money for our Fund??

Is there someone with the right contacts who could steer Big business sponsorship in the direction of some KB racers.

Racey

**R6_kid:Me** · 17th May 2006, 00:44

im considering running a bloody sausage sizzle on weekends just so i can raise funds for

A race bike of some description
Extra cash to help with entry fees etc for next season

and thats not to mention the fact that i wash bikes for anyone that asks so i can free up cash to pay my old man back for the R6 (the main thing stopping me from racing at the moment)

All this is on top of 20hrs+ a week working, a fulltime uni schedule and extra study.

Realistically i know that until i am in a fulltime job i wont be able to afford the kind of racing i want to do (F2 on a 600), but what i do really want is just to get into it, whether it be F3, Pre 89, or streetstocks. That way i will have a basis to move on for when asking for business sponsorship (eg, this is what i've done, rather than this is what i want to do)

So personally if such a fund were to go ahead, i would support it being a shared thing for generators, tents etc... Thats a few less expenses for EVERYONE. I can see this working in the North Island, with Aucklanders doing AMCC, PMCC and VMCC club series all over the North Island, but its the equipment to the South Island, or vice versa... so if we went this way do we buy two lots to keep both lots of people happy, or does one group of racers just get to miss out?

**MadDuck** · 17th May 2006, 21:54

Well there ya go.....its sure as hell is duck shooting season yet again

1) CaN I would not envisage this as taking any money off the site. I see it as boosting the site as a community helping each other.

2) I would not only see this as supporting exisiting riders but up and coming riders that need a helping hand. Like I say NOT REPLACING SPONSPORSHIP!!!

3) I offered to administer this as a bean counter I think Im kinda qualified to be a tight ass with money. Along with 3 neutral KBers not into racing.

4) I would expect any KB racer receiving funds to promote the site and thus help with numbers etc...

5) Racey ...it was the begining of an idea - yeah SM over a beer but aint that the best way ideas are formed.

If such a thing should ever get off the ground (which I doubt due to the negative response thus far) Then all options would be considered. I thought of TS and his crash at Puke and as a (MAYBE) we could have helped him get new leathers, gear...etc.... to help get him back going. Although I know this was sorted by other KBers in private

It seems no matter what suggestions are offered you guys just want to see the negative.

Gareth let me know when you wanna run ya sizzle...I'll be there to butter your bread ...just dont expect me too cook anything :spudflip:

**MattRSK** · 17th May 2006, 22:05

Originally Posted by MadDuck

Gareth let me know when you wanna run ya sizzle...I'll be there to butter your bread ...just dont expect me too cook anything :spudflip:

Good on ya

**Quasievil** · 17th May 2006, 22:38

Well my view is if you want to support a racer, then simply do it, we dont need a freckin committee and all the trimmings which will cause grief amongst those not in favour or on the recieving end. If there is a racer who interests you then support him, offer to buy him some tyres run an auction etc etc etc, it aint hard.
I personally have supported a few guys on here mostly cause they are mates and I felt like it, now however Im a bit more business minded about it, I support only two racers, one being Dss3 and the other being Me
However in saying that I will put on the table one piece race suits at a hugely discounted price of $550 (to Racers only) but their is a catch, QUASiMOTO will be all over them (thats what I get) but you can choose ya colors and design it yourself (within reason) and not to mention it is made against my specification which is better than most big brand name gear.

In saying all that crap, If I am in a position to help anyone, Im all freckin ears! why? because thats what KB is about, and for me I get more out of helping than I would out of spending the money on myself anyway (not that Im loaded though cause I aint)
so People pick a racer and go for it and if you cant decide then choose me cause I suck and I need more power to whip frosties arse next season.

**MadDuck** · 17th May 2006, 22:45

I am picking you missed my idea or concept. Cant say I didnt try.

Some people cant afford to go one on one with a racer. Hell you go up to Mr Quasi or Mr TS and say hers 5 bucks hope that helps?

Its ok I got the message and I will support one racer next season.

Kick his arse if you can Mr Q......

**SwanTiger** · 17th May 2006, 23:26

Originally Posted by Quasievil

cause I suck and I need more power to whip frosties arse next season.

If I can help it i'll be there to whip both your arses

**Racey Rider** · 18th May 2006, 08:41

Originally Posted by MadDuck

5) Racey ...it was the begining of an idea - yeah SM over a beer but aint that the best way ideas are formed.

If such a thing should ever get off the ground (which I doubt due to the negative response thus far) Then all options would be considered. ...

It seems no matter what suggestions are offered you guys just want to see the negative.

Yes MadDuck it IS a good idea.
I think your being a bit hard on us, we have given a good Balanced review of what 'we think' your suggesting. Yes some of the negitives have been mentioned, Balanced with some positive ideas. Surly it's all part of looking at a idea,, to see it from all angles and get input from others.

**Racey Rider** · 18th May 2006, 09:12

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Well...

What would help is a list of who is racing, what class, last placings, meetings scheduled etc.

Paul N

If you look under the racing threads, all that infomation is there. We are often writing race reports to let KB know what we're up to, how we're going.

**Two Smoker** · 18th May 2006, 09:17

I too think that through reading this thread, there is three options...

1: Use the money on a winning basis ie, give the money to those people that did well in their respective classes. But there are asociated problems, such as how much money per racer??? A streetstock racer wont need nearly as much money as a superbike racer etc... There also needs to be a commitee (neutral as you said Madduck) to make this decision...

2: Use the money in a more community based way... Such as buying a generator, or a couple of eziups, a BBQ to make sausage sizzles to raise extra money for the KB racers etc... You still need a commitee to decide what to buy again, but it doesnt have to be neutral as it doesnt reward one particular racer...

3: If you have the money, pick your own racer. You would be surprised what is on offer as a business oppurtunity from some racers/race managers. But if you focus on a single racer/team (ie Muppet Racing) and buy then a set of tyres each for their next 2-3 meetings (thats if they last that long) then do that... Chucking all you money at Sam Smith isnt all good... He is a very talented racer, with HUGE backing, including a factory sponser... If you want to help him, you are talking big dollars (10's of thousands)

I see this thread being good in the long run... Keep the ideas flowing, and when there is enough ideas, there needs to be a commitee nominated and a decision between whether we use Option 1 or Option 2 or other options if they are viable... This can be done by a simple poll done on KB...

**Sketchy_Racer** · 18th May 2006, 09:25

I still think that the EZups and generators etc are the best way to go. It is the most simple and everyone gets the same amount of benifit from it.

Plus it would be cool to have teh KB racers group together. It would attract alot of people. Which is very good for people that have other sponsers!!

**Racey Rider** · 18th May 2006, 09:34

Ok, lets take this another step, and see where we get.

(please correct me where I'm wrong)
MadDuck has proposed a KB Racing fund.
She suggests there are KB'ers interested in contributing to this fund to help out in exchange for KB promotion.
People have shown a interest in having items pro cued for General KB'ers use from that fund.

I, being a KB racer won't be part of that committee once operational. But I do have time to help set it up.

MadDuck has volunteered to be the accountant for 'KBR Fund'.
Do we have a Ya or Na to that from you lot?
I haven't meet MadDuck myself yet, so if anyone would like to make a 'Confidential character assessment' of MadDucks suitability for this position, you can PM me. I will give a assessment of peoples thoughts without naming names.
(Sorry MadDuck,, it's just a good formality so this don't bite you in the arse later. Just step out of the office while we discuss your promotion type of thing).

**Racey Rider** · 18th May 2006, 09:40

Next we need some nominations for other non racing KB,ers to join the 'KBR Fund' Management.

EDIT: Purhapes it would be better to hear from those interested in being involed in the management, rather than just asking people that may not be to keen in the long run???
How shall we do it?

Then when we have a short list, we can have a poll to confirm who gets in.