KB racing sponsorship yet again!

[Sketchy_Racer]

YA from this guy

[babyB]

Ya from here

[sugilite:Me]

Ya from here

[FROSTY:Me]

The basic concept is good--the issue really is---whats "fair"??
Was It fair when a certain KBer paid for my race entry on 15 march
Honestly NO It wasn't -did I deserve it --well I think I did-but then I would wouldn't I -- Did I apreciate it --SHIT YEA.

One thought here --waaay off in left feild. How about every KB racer has an account number available to put funds into --You would be amazed how far $5.00 can go when its multiplied by 50

Also another thought --what about rather than racer sponsorship how about EVENT sponsorship --like the KB rally etc

[Quasievil]

Also another thought --what about rather than racer sponsorship how about EVENT sponsorship --like the KB rally etc

We have had a range of sponsorship by way of prizes etc for the rallies to date. I would be keen on the next one to go further with it, but the KB members need to get into it a bit more, ie last one was way below what we should have got 65 people or something, piss poor effort really, if you want sponsorship you need the numbers to maximise exposure for the suppliers or sponsors yeah?
See how the next one goes, there will be another in the early warmer months

[Racey Rider]

Any futher comment on this from the weekend watchers??

[Bert]

Any futher comment on this from the weekend watchers??

I think that Team KiwiBiker is fundamentally a great idea. But, we do have three distinct road racing groups, Auckland, Vic and CC. So if we buy one set of gear or sponsor one rider how do the rest of the groups benefit?
I like the idea of buying gear for the masses rather than sponsoring one rider, this encourages a team co-op rather than individual (there is enough track time for this).

So the question is to be asked, what benefit do I have joining Team KiwiBiker?
Logic prevails:
Cooperation. Cool. I’m all for that.
Sharing resources, I keen to share my tools and resources to like minded people.
Understanding and experiences. Sweet I know sh!t all about racing and I enjoy talking to people.
United front, - enabling a group of people to benefit or gain sounds good.

So how can we make Team Kiwibiker work?
Maybe we could organise each racing group into a sub Team KiwiBiker, ie Team KiwiBiker Vic.
The overall Team KiwiBiker administration group approaches national potential sponsors.
For a start ,
First: say Hirequip. – a large marquee with their logo all over it and one or two generators.
This can be their sponsorship contribution. It hasn’t cost them anything but the potential loss of profit during the required days; it hasn’t cost Team KiwiBiker anything.
We get an area to cooperate under (pit together) and stand out. Also this provides a starting point for future sponsorship from other organisations as the benefit / potential can be seen. (a BIG tent stands out).
Second: a Radio station, (sounds strange but) if a radio station will send out one of their roaming staff, then potential sponsors can be seen (I’m mean heard) on the radio. This gives a platform for barter with sponsors. “This is what we can do for you !!”
Third: we need to look at what sponsors can do for each other. (back to my point about barter), see if we can get discounts for our sponsors with our other sponsors. Then they also win

Sub Teams orginise :
Each sub group approaches local organisations / companies. Such as bikeshops (discounts), pie shops (my fav – as I’m a pie man), petrol stations(discounts), wholesale meat (for Team BBQs and fundraising), and maybe a drink supplier. And a Pub (we have to get together and talk sh!t ). The list go on
As the Team will have a marquee then there is plenty of room for advertising. (It is a BIG Tent)
These small options/sponsorship give the sub team the little things that cost the racer money on the day. Generally we don’t even factor these things into our racing budget.
I don’t ever think that we will get enough sponsorship to cover our racing – but is that really what we want ???


So how do we join Team KiwiBiker?

We, I think we also need to support the website. This conversation wouldn’t even taken place with out it. So buy a KiwiBider Race pack (I know this doesn’t exist) but here go’s
KiwiBider Shirts, with your name and number, you and your pit group
KiwiBiker Stickers, for the Bike
KiwiBiker Patches, for your holy leathers
Cost = a little more than normal to cover a donation to the website and Team membership


Anyway That’s my two cents.
Having evolvement in sports club committees and ongoing problems faced with sponsorship under lovely Helen’s new legalisations its not easy to make these things work.
Feel free to Shot me down, but it was only an idea and/or a different approach.
Bert

[motobob]

Chucking all you money at Sam Smith isnt all good... He is a very talented racer, with HUGE backing, including a factory sponser... If you want to help him, you are talking big dollars (10's of thousands)

I see this thread being good in the long run... Keep the ideas flowing, and when there is enough ideas, there needs to be a commitee nominated and a decision between whether we use Option 1 or Option 2 or other options if they are viable... This can be done by a simple poll done on KB...

Hah got yah. This was a tongue in cheek comment aimed at those that want to support winners. There is only a handful of guys that fall in this category and they are all well supported (for NZ anyway).

[MattRSK]

I really think Bert is on to something. I would really be keen to help out with anything. I mean I dont do anything thing else apart from work and riding, so it makes sense to me.

[Racey Rider]

Ok, so I've had six votes for, one vote against (no reason given).
And nobody showing interest in being part of 'KBRacing fund' management.

I guess You could try forming something MadDuck, perhaps give us names of KB'ers you'd like to work with to make this happen. As you haven't been online since your last comment, we wait to see what your feelings are on the idea now?
If you would still like to go ahead with this idea, we could create a thread looking for peoples to join you and see what we can achieve.

Another thought I had was the fund could buy things that both racers And Track day riders could use, like a Transponder system. (one or two units could be shared around). Or to Book Group discounts for a Dyno Day.

Thanks to those who have offered comments.
Cheers.
Racey.

[Titanium]

I support supporting an up and coming rider that is showing talent at grass roots racing. There must be someone out there who fits the bill.

In recent years I have supported racers in another form of motorsport by supplying a multitude of items (PWC's to race, transport to and from events, entry fees, fuel, wrenching on world class craft to the wee small hours of the morning in the hot Arizona desert, the list goes on and on) think I shelled out well over 75k in 5 years.

Would I support a pro racer? no! you need to run what you brung and have the budget to support it.

I might be new to KB, but not new to motorsport.

Simple question - What would KB community get in return for its investment in sponsoring a rider? Actually the word sponship sucks, it is all about the money, support is better, it has a lot nicer ring to it and can mean many things.

I'll hang around the tracks a bit more, already got my eye on a couple of young riders that could benefit from some support, what ever that may be.

Having also been a motorsport club administrator, sponsorship co-ordinator, event co-ordinator for 3 years I know how hard it is to organise succesful events and teams.

Oh yeah, I think I taught Mad Duck to SCUBA dive......


Cheers


Peter

[MadDuck]

I have stayed away from the thread as it seemed to get a negative reponse but on revisiting it might be worth trying to get this off the ground.

First I would need to clear this with SpankMe - its his site afterall. I dont want to see racers joining the site just to cash in "so as to speak". And I dont want this to be seen in anyways taking money from the site.

I have an idea on who will be the decision makers. Senior KB members who have no affliation with racing. If SpankMe agrees I will PM those KBers and ask if they are willing to help....its ok there will be no committee meetings and the political bullshit associated with committees.

Peter if thats really you...shite what a small world! Do you still have that hot pink dry suit ?

[Kwaka-Kid]

Good stuff MadDuck

[Titanium]

I have stayed away from the thread as it seemed to get a negative reponse but on revisiting it might be worth trying to get this off the ground.

First I would need to clear this with SpankMe - its his site afterall. I dont want to see racers joining the site just to cash in "so as to speak". And I dont want this to be seen in anyways taking money from the site.

I have an idea on who will be the decision makers. Senior KB members who have no affliation with racing. If SpankMe agrees I will PM those KBers and ask if they are willing to help....its ok there will be no committee meetings and the political bullshit associated with committees.

Peter if thats really you...shite what a small world! Do you still have that hot pink dry suit ?

It only looked hot pink under water......... Was purple on top of the water....

Just for you ......

Still got that rose coloured dive mask?

10 years ago eh?


Peter