Pit bulls

[SwanTiger]

But the with people they are fantastic and known to be so.

I was referring to a Malamute killing other domestic and non-domestic animals rather than humans. However, I still have puncture wounds in my arms and legs from an abused Malamute we fostered last year.

After manging to teach her a few manners and socialised her with non-Malamutes she was re-homed and is doing well (see attached picture).

[magicfairy]

Agreed, they do not take well to abuse at all. People get them thinking they will make good fighters / guard dogs. And them treat them badly to toughen them up.
What Malamutes need most is to know where they are in the pack, and consistent fair treatment. Or they become nuts. And they don't like being alone, they are very much a pack animal. Which is why we have 2.

Definatley not a dog for a first time dog owner, but great if you know what you are doing.

[SwanTiger]

Guys with pit-bull type dog fitted with studded collar?

Good to see you used the correct terminology with "pit-bull type dog".

One thing people commonly fail to recognise is that it is hard to distinguish between a pure breed Pit Bull and a mixed-breed Pit Bull. This is one of the reasons that "Pit Bulls" as a name are given such a bad reputation because of misconception.

Tests conducted by the American Temperament Test Society show results for American Pit Bull Terriers as being 83.5% while an Australian Cattle Dog got 78.1%. That clearly displays that the breed isn't as bad as people make it out to be and has to be one of the most intelligent. This is evident when you consider the only breed of dog to win the most Titles/Awards is an American Pit Bull Terrier.

"Pit Bulls" have no pre-disposition to attack humans unless provoked, infact their fighting background/history shows that they were intentionally trained to show no agression towards humans. This was important when you consider that if two dogs were fighting and for some reason one needed to be removed or the fight needed to be stopped. The trainer or the organiser/whatever needs to be assured that they aren't going to loose a chunk of their calf muscle when trying to stop the fight or remove a dog.

"Pit Bulls" are also used in various occupations such as Police, Customs, Search and Rescue and even in Hospitals as "Care" dogs.

I'm not defending the breed, but it just emphasises the fact, the owners are responsible for raising the dog. And there for, should be responsible for any actions of the dog where other variables (such as agression/provocation from a human or other animal) are non existent.

There is no such thing as a "rouge gene" or otherwise, dogs can be very neurotic and if you fuck them up in the head (like any human) they'll do all sorts of weird shit.

[Hitcher]

Tests conducted by the American Temperament Test Society.

You cannot be serious?

Smells a bit like the "Swiss Vitamin Institute" -- a bogus facade created by a vested interest group to promulgate "impartial" information.

[SwanTiger]

Definatley not a dog for a first time dog owner, but great if you know what you are doing.

They are lovely dogs indeed.

However I honestly believe unless the owner is actively working them, they shouldn't be pets. Malamutes are machines, conditioned over years to serve a purpose and they love to work.

Pisses me off to see so many getting them as show-pony dogs. The owners are just as bad as those in South Auckland areas who get "Fighting Breed" dogs to artificially inflat their image.

You sound like you know what your doing though and its cool to see.

[SwanTiger]

You cannot be serious?

Smells a bit like the "Swiss Vitamin Institute" -- a bogus facade created by a vested interest group to promulgate "impartial" information.

Pfft, there will always be one.

http://www.atts.org/

Have a look for yourself, they have tested a good number of breeds and show no bias towards any particular type of breed.

[Big Dave]

Smells a bit like the "Swiss Vitamin Institute" -- a bogus facade created by a vested interest group to promulgate "impartial" information.

And I thought that was advertising agencies!

[buellbabe]

There is no such thing as a "rouge gene" or otherwise, dogs can be very neurotic and if you fuck them up in the head (like any human) they'll do all sorts of weird shit.

Sorry but I disagree... maybe "rogue gene" isn't the correct terminology but I know of dogs that have been fucked in the head from birth and its got NOTHING to do with their upbringing. There is just something wrong with them. I know of a dog that was sent to Mark Vette ( renowned Animal behavourist, not sure if thats the right term? ) and even he agreed that it should just be put down cos there was something not right with it... and the owner had done EVERYthing right...
Its been scientifically proved with People that there are genes that predispose a person to violent behaviour and as far as I'm concerned its the same with animals.

As far as Pitt-Bulls go... personally I like the breed... but I am aware of the "pit-falls"...

[Big Dave]

All that does is confirm the similarity to leaving loaded guns around - the mental capacity of people who would do that - is about the same as some dickwit 'hardening up' a bull.

The end result are similar too.

And you can quote all the statistics you like - my son has been mauled by the cunts twice. Once when he was playing on a swing and once when he was washing a car.

Fuck your pit bull terriers to hell. ALL of them. And if anyone wants to argue the toss with me - you can get fucked too.

[SwanTiger]

There is just something wrong with them.

Which is pretty much the same with Humans, however we have developed institutions to deal with such cases. Where dogs are concerned its much more accepted to just have them "put down".

Why don't we do this with Humans?

Well Stephen Hawking surely would of fallen into the category of "hes fucked, put the bastard down".

[buellbabe]

Which is pretty much the same with Humans, however we have developed institutions to deal with such cases. Where dogs are concerned its much more accepted to just have them "put down".

Why don't we do this with Humans?

Well Stephen Hawking surely would of fallen into the category of "hes fucked, put the bastard down".

Hey I am all for that! Some humans are a waste of space!

[SwanTiger]

Fuck your pit bull terriers to hell. ALL of them.

Haha, fair enough.

When our Government finally does something at the very best I think its going to be a "Tax" and new "Policy Enforcement" that evolves.

• Footpath User Charges
• No walking the dog after 10pm or before 5am
• Must show 'D' plate for 'Dangerous Dog'
• Must not exceed 70 paces per minute
• Dog must not have more than 250 cubic cm of muscle

[Swoop]

Which is pretty much the same with Humans, however we have developed institutions to deal with such cases. Where dogs are concerned its much more accepted to just have them "put down".

Why don't we do this with Humans?

We used to.
Unfortunately this practice is now frowned upon (dunno why!) and the remaining examples are duly represented on the Darwin Awards website...

[Big Dave]

We used to.
Unfortunately this practice is now frowned upon (dunno why!) and the remaining examples are duly represented on the Darwin Awards website...

I think the spartans were on the right track.

[Dazza]

Sorry to hear about your son & GF BD,haven't read all the posts but would like to add my bit .The dog should be shot,any dog, what ever breed that bites should be put down. I've owned an American Pit Bull Terrier (purebred,not a bitsa so called pitbull) as a pup in 1990 and had him for 8 yrs before I put him down (bowel disease) and he was a most excellent dog. Likes already been said, not the type of dog for the inexperienced/irresponsible owner,people are just not aware of what they're capable of until it's too late. All the best.