Pit bulls

**Rashika** · 19th May 2006, 16:42

Interesting thread.
Sorry to hear about Matt...damn lucky boy really, damn lucky for both of them (him and his G/f) that he was there.

Now all I wish is that people would stop confusing staffies with Pit bull bitsas... It would certainly stop me having to defend my girl all the damn time... but I guess that will go forever huh?

Being a dog owner I KNOW how important it is to be able to control your dog... 100% onus on YOU to prevent a fight. And i will always walk away if i am concerned, but so many people just seem blasé about their animals... damn wish I understood why? Pisses me off.
I was once surrounded by 4 kinda large dogs, while walking my smallish staffy...the other moron owners were at least 100metres away... now what would have happend had i not had the forethought to pick my dog up and out of their way? Oh yeah see the headlines now...Staffy/Pitbull/somefucking-type-a-dog attacks 4 dogs...yup that would be it... mines a staff so just HAS to be at fault.....yeah yeah yeah

Hope he heals up fast... and I wouldn't blame him at all for hating the breed... but bear in mind that it wasn't a pedigree, gotta blame all the other breeds in that animal as well...you dont know what you get when you mix em up, sometimes a great animal and sometimes a killer, sad to say

**Big Dave** · 19th May 2006, 17:15

I rang animal protection for an update.
the owner does not wish to surrender the dog and wants it returned. (surprise!)
Animal protection do not consider this to be appropriate and are in the process of recommending a raft of charges against the owner - in due course - this may take some time. They sounded serious charges.

In the interim they will maintain the animal. When I suggested a bullet would be easier, they were professional and sympathetic - just folks doing their job.

I understand it's a council decision - I'll trust the system. (and the network of chaps of influence I'm chummy with.)

**Macktheknife** · 19th May 2006, 17:39

Hope all is well with your son BD, best wishes to him and G/F.
Please keep us all informed.

**eliot-ness** · 19th May 2006, 18:06

Originally Posted by Big Dave

I understand it's a council decision - I'll trust the system. (and the network of chaps of influence I'm chummy with.)

I hope you don;t live in the Rodney area. A report today in the local paper. Three dogs attacked two sheep, both sheep killed. Dogs caught and taken to pound. Only oe owner turned up to claim hi dog. The dog was handed back to him. No questions asked.

On the question of chipping. Initially it was done on a large scale in China. Our government obtained reports on the success of their measures. Unfortunately they only read the first line.
All dogs should be chipped.... Had they read more they would have seen.
Then battered.
Finally deep fried.

**Big Dave** · 19th May 2006, 20:54

Originally Posted by eliot-ness

I hope you don;t live in the Rodney area. -
Finally deep fried.

very good - The incident was Pt England so that would be Akl.
I'll have No46 - the sweet & sour.

**Timber020** · 19th May 2006, 21:07

Originally Posted by swanny

Not good to hear Dave, hope none of the wounds are serious.

I hope the owner is severly punished, Pit bulls are not bad dogs, it is the owner who makes the dog what it is. A good example is my mothers dog (staffi, pitbull and ridgeback), she was bred for fighting but not wanted. The dog is the biggest wuss you'll ever meet now.

The only dog that I know of which will kill for the sake of killing regardless of training is an Alaskan Malamute. In all other cases, punish the owners.

You will have to talk to my ex's mother who almost lost her arm when her pit bull who she had from a pup took to her. Was working her way up her arm towards the neck when the neighbour was able to get it off.
They are killers, they have great personality but there is a switch in there head that can go at any time, no matter how well trained or loved the dog is. I have known dozens of pittys that have been wonderful, friendly, loyal and down right funny. But they have a mechanism that you just cant train out.

**oldrider** · 19th May 2006, 21:07

Just heard on the radio news of a "Pit Bull attack" and thought Oh no not another one!
Then the report clearly identified it must be the one on your son BD! Doesn't make pleasant listening, hope he is OK and improving.

**Big Dave** · 19th May 2006, 22:25

Originally Posted by oldrider

Just heard on the radio news of a "Pit Bull attack" and thought Oh no not another one!
Then the report clearly identified it must be the one on your son BD! Doesn't make pleasant listening, hope he is OK and improving.

yeah - he's out on the town doing his 21yo saturday night thing as usual.
And beaming that I reckon he's my hero.

**Motu** · 19th May 2006, 22:45

When a dog bit a kid in our street a few years ago,I told the ranger personaly next day - ''Good,that's all I need to hear'' she said - I went home that night and saw 3 dogs layed out on the side of the road.She just shot them in front of the owners and left them there for a few hours.

Of course you couldn't do that these days,there would be a hue and cry with a major court case.

**Colapop** · 19th May 2006, 22:47

Not in Wairoa. Dead dogs don't bite bullets.

**SwanTiger** · 19th May 2006, 23:06

Originally Posted by Motu

Of course you couldn't do that these days,there would be a hue and cry with a major court case.

Some Animal Control Officers in certain districts still carry rifles with them on the job. If in a situation where the ACO sees reasonable cause for its use, then they are entitled to do so with little to no descretion other than public safety.

Its commonly used when they receive calls of dogs attacking livestock.

You can relax knowing not all of the country has gone to shit Motu.

**Big Dave** · 19th May 2006, 23:12

I just had a bbq at my place with a senior cop and his mrs - and a hard out biker and good bloke he is too.

He said that it's a shame matt couldn't kill the dog at the time - it's lawful to 'dispatch' it whilst being attacked - not so after the event.

The law is an ass sometimes - or maybe it's a pit bull.

**Big Dave** · 19th May 2006, 23:37

Originally Posted by SpeedMedic

He was even worried about his own safety and stayed inside the house untill the cops arrived with animal control and they had secured the dog.

If you had seen the state of matthew's thigh you would have done the same thing.

**slimjim** · 20th May 2006, 13:06

sorry to read this,, however thats the breed, hope the family recover, mentally as well, realise how unfair it will be in their minds for the rest of their lives when facing any dog now

**scumdog** · 20th May 2006, 13:13

Originally Posted by Motu

When a dog bit a kid in our street a few years ago,I told the ranger personaly next day - ''Good,that's all I need to hear'' she said - I went home that night and saw 3 dogs layed out on the side of the road.She just shot them in front of the owners and left them there for a few hours.

Of course you couldn't do that these days,there would be a hue and cry with a major court case.

Still goes on down here in Redneck Heaven - it bites/it dies.
And the (ex)owners are lucky if they are not prosecuted.