June 3rd Pukekohe Open Day - Spidi Hot Chicks Day Out

[Two Smoker]

I agree with Motobob... Im going to pass you on the outside or the inside, and its going to be my decision at that second on the track day which im going to do, which is safer, and which has the most room... Im not out there to ruin peoples days, but im also not out there to muck around... The best place to pass on the hairpin is up the inside, usually because i will be carrying a higher speed, and braking later, thus hitting the corner, and taking the corner before the passed has even started turning in...

There is more than one way to take a corner when passing, and you dont "have" to hit the same apex that the one being passed is going to take...

All you do is hold you line, dont be erratic and have fun... You dont have to leave room, if there is no room, im not going to pass there...

[Cleve]

I guess we have the racers point of view and the riders point of view and it may be like Israel and Palestine with no 2 sides actually agreeing.
I was on a race bike and going fast on Saturday and also being very aware of slower riders/bikes and doing my best to get past quickly and safely and not to muck them up. If someone felt I did then my apologies as it certainly wasn't my intention. (I have NO paint of my fairing so not sure who that one was...) The last thing I want to do is crash and get hurt as well.
You had to pick the timing and the placement to overtake in safety. At times that was really hard, especially when on a number of times bikes were riding 3 -4 abreast around a corner or down a straight!! It may not have "felt" safe for some (I remember the first time a fast bike went past me at the race track, it scared the shit out of me...) but I never did a dangerous overtaking maneuver. Once again if someone feels I did to them then my apologies.
A lot of the road riders were pushing it ( I think only road bikes crashed and no race bikes so I guess that also indicates who were at times trying above their level...)
It was a tricky day with a lot of riders out with a mix of skills and bike speeds. There really should have been 2 bike sessions (like the cars did) race/fast and road.

[blueblade]

While we are talking about Saturday can I just ask, is it normal for the tow truck to come out onto the track in the middle of a session to recover a broken down car from the previous session.
I was coming into Jennian at what was a pretty quick speed for me and was a bit surprised to find a tow truck in front of me half way round the corner with no prior warning. There was also I think a track vehicle with flashing lights with the truck but it certainly struck me as a bit odd????

[FROSTY:Me]

My opinion on passing on a track day is simple--I dont give a flying fuck if you are Andrew Stroud or a newbee rider with 10 minutes of ride time.
The RULE is simple --The onus is on the overtaking rider to do so in a safe manner.
INside/outside upside frigging down I dont give a shit.
Guys are going to be erratic .change lines mid corner etc. in front of you
Personally Im not a great fan on passing on The hairpin at pukie (on a trackday) -Id rather hang back a bit and let the guy/gal in front do their thing.Ive seen way too much carnage there
Ohh and Shaun--fuck mate i must -relatively speaking be going slow as
because I'm not braking into jennian --Just going wide/cutting back in and either tapped in 4th or 7/8 throttle in top. stay inside or outside the bump.
Mind you I guess theres a fair difference in speed between a F3 and a f2 bike

[motobob]

While we are talking about Saturday can I just ask, is it normal for the tow truck to come out onto the track in the middle of a session to recover a broken down car from the previous session.
I was coming into Jennian at what was a pretty quick speed for me and was a bit surprised to find a tow truck in front of me half way round the corner with no prior warning. There was also I think a track vehicle with flashing lights with the truck but it certainly struck me as a bit odd????

Didn't you see one of the helpers holding out his safety vest. Well they did for Cibby when she took her bike for a walk round Jennian. Unfortunately another vehicle on the circuit is normal. It is usually on the grass out of your way. And they don't stop the session for oil either unless someone crashes. Welcome to Puke

Hi Cleve wondered how long it would take you to respond. I've tried to keep this thread alive till you arrived. New bike has arrived today won't be able to ride it till me bodywork arrives.

Frosty so why give us the crap about not passing people at your track days aye. You should be banned from Puke when roadies are there.

[loosebruce]

My take on things is i'll get round people anyway i can, and if by some freak of timing it looks like there could be a bit of bike biffo i turst enough in my ability to avoid the situation. At the end of the day it's only one corner they're going to hold me back so why not just wait and get past on the next corner!
The thing that gives me the shits about Puke in general is the speed differnce on the back straight of say me full tit on the 1000 at 300kph someone on there 250 full tit at 180kph (or slower), i tell you a superbike in full flight is fucken hard to change direction at that speed, sometimes you get 2/3 bikes abreast down the straights all of them weaving around trying to pass bikes of different speeds, but again wait for a gap and you can pass, but i've some heavy braking times in the middle of the straight trying to avoid some people before, and plus watching 5 abreast into the hairpin is quite crazy.

[justsomeguy]

Who ever said that hasn't ridden at Taupo. Unless your passing a pushbike. Its a long way round on the outside at Taupo.

Hi Motobob,

It was Chris Mitchell the organiser of the Track day who said that.

I agree with your comments it is a testing day for some racers.

The thing I find the most frightening is the double sided pass.....

[justsomeguy]

and not to mention the worst person i know of to give advice on any of the above stated...

Where's the advice?? I must have missed it.

[justsomeguy]

My take on things is i'll get round people anyway i can, and if by some freak of timing it looks like there could be a bit of bike biffo i turst enough in my ability to avoid the situation. At the end of the day it's only one corner they're going to hold me back so why not just wait and get past on the next corner!
The thing that gives me the shits about Puke in general is the speed differnce on the back straight of say me full tit on the 1000 at 300kph someone on there 250 full tit at 180kph (or slower), i tell you a superbike in full flight is fucken hard to change direction at that speed, sometimes you get 2/3 bikes abreast down the straights all of them weaving around trying to pass bikes of different speeds, but again wait for a gap and you can pass, but i've some heavy braking times in the middle of the straight trying to avoid some people before, and plus watching 5 abreast into the hairpin is quite crazy.

In the end it all depends on the riders. Take time to say hi to each other and have a bit of a chat in the rest periods, then everyone knows everyone's ability and who to look out for.

I remember my first trackday at Puke when I was a newbie with probably a couple of thousand ks slow road riding doing 150kmph on the back straight being passed by Quasi, LooseBruce, TwoSmoker, Frosty and some other fast litre bike non Kb'ers. Never did I feel under any threat and there were no moments.

Puke is a crazy track and pretty boring on a 250. I don't think I'll ever ride there again on my 250.

[White trash]

being passed by Quasi, LooseBruce, TwoSmoker, Frosty

Was there anybody fast there though?

[justsomeguy]

Was there anybody fast there though?

Nope, Oh wait.... naa.

I remember lapping you though, you were on Grunta's bike and yer mate Hayden had come up as had Deano- I think he had just bought the Repsol.

[White trash]

Weren't me riding Gruntas bike, funnily enough, it was Grunta.

[justsomeguy]

Weren't me riding Gruntas bike, funnily enough, it was Grunta.

Really? Heh

What were you on?

[White trash]

The ol' KB slut. Bruces TL.

[MadDuck]

Ok guys time for a "take a moment" for those that were there.

I still had an awesome day. And the photos dont show the grin on my face as I puddled around the track. OK there were a few overtaking passes that put the wind up my sails but as I said to Enigma after the first session nothing I would have thrown my helmet on the ground and said "YOU WANKERS"

In fact it was the faster guys came up and asked if I was having a good time! The tow truck coming into Jennian was kind of a surprise I must admit...but damn I was close enough to see brake lights of the riders ahead..pays to be at the back of the pack sometimes.

PS: JSG Bet your time down the back straight you soft cock :P