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    So do you have to write an essay on it?? Or is it just for classroom study?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hXc
    Nah. Too bloody lazy
    Again, something students and young people have said (in varying styles and languages) for centuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuFfY
    So do you have to write an essay on it?? Or is it just for classroom study?
    Yeah I'm writing an essay on it. The question is, "When we read, we have different understandings ona topic. What do you understand differently after reading this text?" My brainstorm so far is:
    • Anarchy seemed like a good idea when it was first thought out. It made perfect sense, everybody for themselves. Of course in reality, it never worked. Without rules to follow, or rebel against, people literally went crazy.
    • Knowledge does not always beat application
    • If society was left to it's own devices, it would eventually fail miserably
    • If each country in the world communicated with only themselces, the world would be a very different place, and it would also never work.
    These of course, are all on one major theme in the book, The Lord Of The Flies. This theme is inate human evil.

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    Yeh cause you need to make sure you incorp. all the other elements of the book. The more you analyse the better your mark it... but the more orignal the better it is once again!!

    I wish I had studied it so that I could help you out more... I am kinda good at essays so if you want to flick a model essay through to me I will do the old teachery thing and proof read it
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    Quote Originally Posted by hXc
    Yeah I'm writing an essay on it. The question is, "When we read, we have different understandings ona topic. What do you understand differently after reading this text?" My brainstorm so far is:
    • Anarchy seemed like a good idea when it was first thought out. It made perfect sense, everybody for themselves. Of course in reality, it never worked. Without rules to follow, or rebel against, people literally went crazy.
    • Knowledge does not always beat application
    • If society was left to it's own devices, it would eventually fail miserably
    • If each country in the world communicated with only themselces, the world would be a very different place, and it would also never work.
    These of course, are all on one major theme in the book, The Lord Of The Flies. This theme is inate human evil.
    Anarchy is the absence of government, not the descent into chaos depicted in LOTF. Anarchists of the 1920s gave Anarchy a bad name by behaving like Nihilists. Anarchy acknowledges the worth of society, while nihilism wants to deny the reality of existence. Think of Anarchy as the ACT party, and Nihilism as the Greens.

    Also the sample group of characters in LOTF isn't representative of "society", in either the time it was set or the present today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hXc
    That does not mean they are stupid, or un-educated. It just means, and goes to show, that the language used is out of date, isn't used in most countries, and hasn't been for a long time.
    Try reading it out loud, it sometimes helps. And marvel at the way Shakespeare incorporates poetry and prose. Quatrains, couplets, partial sonnet forms. I thought you were a musician? Read Shakespeare with a musician's eyes. And soul. Unless, of course, you're a rap artist...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher
    Try reading it out loud, it sometimes helps. And marvel at the way Shakespeare incorporates poetry and prose. Quatrains, couplets, partial sonnet forms. I thought you were a musician? Read Shakespeare with a musician's eyes. And soul. Unless, of course, you're a rap artist...
    I wasn't saying anything against Shakespeare. I love his work, maybe because I am a musician. But Shakespeare was a great writer. I met him once...In a past life. I was a donkey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Think of Anarchy as the ACT party, and Nihilism as the Greens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hXc
    the man who wrote The Da Vinci Code be better.
    Dan Brown.

    And No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer
    The trouble I found was in relating my own life experiences to what was happening in the books, so like you I struggled to relate, or find relevance.
    HXC, if you're having trouble relating to the book, have a look at the next time a group of boys in school gangs up on an individual. Check out the way they're behaving and then re-read any of the bits of the book that include 'piggy'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Dopa
    Dan Brown.

    And No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No.
    It seems I am getting a whole lot of bad comments about The Da Vinci Code. Yes, the ideas that are in the book are obviously completely un-true, but it's a different take on things. I believe it's a well written book, with some interesting points in it. Is it because it's too different and completely different to what we know as 'right'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Dopa
    HXC, if you're having trouble relating to the book, have a look at the next time a group of boys in school gangs up on an individual. Check out the way they're behaving and then re-read any of the bits of the book that include 'piggy'.
    I never said I was having trouble relating to the book. But I don't like it none the less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hXc
    It seems I am getting a whole lot of bad comments about The Da Vinci Code. Yes, the ideas that are in the book are obviously completely un-true, but it's a different take on things. I believe it's a well written book, with some interesting points in it. Is it because it's too different and completely different to what we know as 'right'?
    Well, I've read the book, and its certainly a page-turner. Its a useful book to have if you're on a long-haul flight and you haven't read it already. BUT, having read it once, I wouldn't pick it up again. It just isn't that interesting. Once you know the story, there's nothing to make you go back to it.

    The reasons i'd go back to a book are:

    1) because the ideas expressed in it were complex and expressed well, and I want to revisit them and think about them/engage with them again (e.g. Animal Farm, 1984, Brave New World).

    2) the way the author has crafted the language is fantastic, and just reading the words and the way sentences are put together makes me go 'wow' (e.g love in the time of cholera)

    Anything by Dan Brown (for me) would fail badly on both those counts. That's why I don't think it deserves to be taught in schools. Time is short, and there's a lot of better books that could be taught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Dopa
    HXC, if you're having trouble relating to the book, have a look at the next time a group of boys in school gangs up on an individual. Check out the way they're behaving and then re-read any of the bits of the book that include 'piggy'.
    Or even listen to The Beatles White Album.
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