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    oldrider - I know people who have meet Ed on numerous occassions... and YES you are correct out him and his attitude.


    I have not heard any of his comments about this incident.



    But someone should have stopped and helped to bring this climber back down the mountain...


    EDIT: it is going to be on "Close Up" TV1 at 7pm tonight 24/5/06

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    Any man who would put his personal ambitions and desires ahead of helping another human being in mortal need, whether or not, he could successfully save the person, is not a man, in any meaning of the word!

    I hope they rest easy with their consciences!

    And consider their money well spent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weasel
    Saying that... when I crashed on the coro a while back, no less than 3 cars drove past me while I was lying on the road... some people just don't care.



    That sucks! It's the law here to stop and help isn't it? Regarding the Everest thing, I hope to hear a few more facts before coming to a conclusion about it. Maybe something on the news tonight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear
    That sucks! It's the law here to stop and help isn't it?
    Law? Doesn't worry anyone on KB, and I don't imagine the rest of the population is much different.

    Only suckers are law abiding, community minded individuals.
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    Dont know if any of you have read this latest article on stuff, but here is Mark Inglis' "side"...

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3678735a10,00.html
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    i bet they would want you to stop and help if it was them i think they were just to pig headed and dont deserve to be called a human. so to the climbers family get there and stare them in the eyes and see what they come up with .
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    It would have been much better PR if he had stayed until Mr Sharp died, and then made a descent to report the death. Try again another time. Inglis' "side", Brice's "side" is all we'll ever get to hear. David Sharp isn't here to give us his "side"
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    Inglis lost two legs, years ago when climbing to frost bite.
    He proved that he could go back up the same mountain on artifical legs.

    So now he wanted to prove that he could climb Mt Everest and be the first double amputee to do this.
    At what cost: to lose more body parts (fingers)

    So ACC will now pay out more money on him.

    To me he proved the point by climbing the mountain that took his two legs.
    That should have been the end of the story.

    But No, he wanted to go down in the history books.

    Well the legacy he leaves behind is that he left a man to die on Mount Everest. He has to live with that for as long as he lives.
    No justification will redeem him of what he and other climbers did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    It would have been much better PR if he had stayed until Mr Sharp died, and then made a descent to report the death. Try again another time.
    Yep, exactly what I thought when I read it. I tought that that would have been the humane thing to do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket
    Dont know if any of you have read this latest article on stuff, but here is Mark Inglis' "side"...

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3678735a10,00.html




    Watching it on TV3 now! Mark's account shows a fuller picture and maybe he wasn't so callous?
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    You dont leave a man behind. They put thier goal over anothers life. At the end of the day, they left a man to die. Karma might have a word or two to say about that a bit further down the track
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear
    Watching it on TV3 now! Mark's account shows a fuller picture and maybe he wasn't so callous?
    Despite the "fuller" picture, David Sharp will never be represented in a light of anything other than just another Solo-Climber Everest death. There'll always be the feeling that he created his own doom behind any discussion about the events leading to his death.

    Mark Inglis relies on having the goodwill of a percentage of NZ people and companies to achieve his goals, and I would suggest that the PR machine that's gone into bat is purely damage control. Quite useful to be able present only one half of the story in a light that minimises the fallout.

    Turning back would have done him a great deal of PR good, and the financial losses would have been sorted in no time.
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    I'm with Inglis on this one.

    Everest is not the street. None of us have been up there so for those of you who agree with Hilary, why use the same ethics at 8548 metres on Everest as you would a sea level??

    Inglis lost his legs on a rescue mission. I don't think he needs to justify his mounteneering ethics or indeed his personal ethics to Hilary or for that matter anyone else.

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    i'm with inglis too. where were sharpe's team? he wasn't up there alone. i haven't heard any critisism of them yet.

    and what about the 70 year old japanese guy that made the summit at the same time - did any of HIS crew help out?

    and it's near 8000 meters, that's 5 miles high, not 8000 feet.

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    Yeah its just another story blown out of proportion by the media. They act as if this is the first time its happened. It happens all the time. The deal when you decide to climb everest is that if you can't make it back down by yourself then stiff bikkies. Its harsh but thats the risk people take when they decide to climb up there. 9 times out of 10 its inexperience or lack of preparation that gets the climbers stuck.

    Anyone remember Rob Hall? He decided to try and help a guy that was in the same position David Sharp was in, they both died huddled together. Apparantly the last 500m up to everest has more dead bodies than most cemetarys, Mr Sharp is just another one that the Mt has claimed.

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