Slow handling questions.....

[bobsmith]

That's the thing... I used to be able to do them fine on bicycles... Just tried it on a bicycle again... I haven't been able to do them on bicycles since I got the bike....

Thanks for your advice everyone... More time on a parking lot for me I think.

[gixermike]

I wouldn't worry about using the clutch once you've pulled away. go a couple of metres straight first to get balanced, then turn in trailing the back brake quite a bit(so the engine is pulling against it....avoids the jerky on/off throttle bit), and to pull youself up out of the lean, either accelerate, or slowly ease the brake off. using the clutch only give you something else to think about. throttle and brake...easy as...evn the girlfreind can do it that way now.

oh, and turn your head as far around to look where you want to end up heading in the end...not at the opposite kerb.
mike

[Shadows]

Yep, I'm with Squeak on this one. Definately ride with the rear brake on.

[sAsLEX]

Yep, I'm with Squeak on this one. Definately ride with the rear brake on.

Havent used the rear brake whilst moving in years.

[Madmax]

Most bikes under very low speed cornering, in first gear, have sudden on off progression of power because of the gearing.
As has been suggested, you need to feather the clutch to smooth this sudden transition. There really is no other way to deal with it.

Fuel injected models make this even more severe.

Try that on a ZX10R f**ken thing will try to through you into the next
state

[pritch]

The Hornet at low speeds has a throttle response like a light switch. When leaving work I always used to bung it into second real quick so as to avoid embarrassment. The Power Commander smoothed that out.

When manouvering at slow speeds lean out instead of in. If it's really tight stand on the pegs. Feather the clutch, and leave the front brake alone.

[Marmoot]

A low speed counter steer???

Yes. it's weird, isn't it?

[The Stranger:Me]

Yes. it's weird, isn't it?

Yes very...
To be clear, what would you define as low speed?

[Marmoot]

Yes very...
To be clear, what would you define as low speed?

low enough to do a u-turn, i guess.

[Ixion]

Well , if you're banked well over, and sitting upright (ie not hanging off) , in a U turn (which is perfectly possible), I think you must countersteer to initiate the turn?

I know we say that counter steering dowsn't work below X kph, but I'm not sure if that is quite true. Just that methods OTHER than counter steering DON'T work above X kph.

[ZeroIndex]

Well , if you're banked well over, and sitting upright (ie not hanging off) , in a U turn (which is perfectly possible), I think you must countersteer to initiate the turn?

I know we say that counter steering dowsn't work below X kph, but I'm not sure if that is quite true. Just that methods OTHER than counter steering DON'T work above X kph.

you don't need all these scientific theories.. you can either u-turn, or you can't..

[Marmoot]

Goldwings and some BMWs have reverse gear so you can do 3-point turn.

[Ixion]

Scotts, the engine will generally reverse if you full advance it quickly at idle, so you can do the same thing.

Alternatively do it the easy way . Don't turn. the world is round, Just go straight ahead.

[Motu]

And for another slant on it - how fast can you U turn?

I used to be able to U turn in our culdesac on my BSA single in top gear - full retard on the spark and lay it on the footpeg,good fun.

[Sniper]

Make sure your tyre pressures are spot on