Fucking Managers!

[Lias]

I need to rant!

Wolf and I are in the middle of a restructuring at work at the moment, and we've just gotten a leaked copy of the finalized structure some 4 hours short of when we actually have our personal meetings with management. Our departments losses are all at the worker level, and the new plan now shows that we have 1 manager for every 3.4 staff in our department. How the FUCK can anyone justify that level of management vs staffing in redundancies? Goddamn managers need to all be lined up and shot.

Not to mention our team leader has been told that we're all moving to new contracts, with possibly lower pay rates, AND we're going from 9-5 work to 7-9 shift work.

*FUME*

[DemonWolf]

Jeez mate.. that seems abit harsh.

[Colapop]

The job market is still quite bouyant at the moment... maybe a move could be justified? In the mean time - roll with it.

[Biohazard]

WTF typical tbh men in suits playing war

[Blackbird]

Welcome to the realisation that Human Resources people (including managers who execute HR policy are the least skilled at managing change and have the poorest people skills of any group (short of IT... joke, honest ). I think that's been pretty much the case in all the organisational changes I've been involved with.

[Edbear]

Aren't you IT chappies and chappesses, (!sp), in rather hot demand at the mo? I reckon you've got some bargaining power on your side, haven't you?

[Mental Trousers]

Look at where you work. Are you honestly surprised that the management structure resembles a butt plug!!

[Sniper]

That sucks arse dude, retribution is needed

[crashe]

Lias - I know some working within the same organisation as you...
Wont name the person thou.... but their job is on the line...
They are looking at finding a new job... and travelling up to Ak daily if need be.

Hang in there til it all settles down. At least you still have a job.

[Switch]

Sucks to hear that Lias. Hope everything works out alright

[Paul in NZ]

Dude. Been through this a million times from both sides.

Getting angry will not help - keep calm, analyse the situation and see if there is some way you can exploit the changes to suit yourself. The fact is, change happens... It always will... The people that do the best out of this are people that handle change.

Paul N

ps - first time it happened to me I went all ranty and apeshit and got nowhere...

[Lou Girardin]

Why don't you sabotage their IT systems.
That'll learn 'em

[Finn]

Nasty. Business today is so focused on bottom line profitability just to appease their share price and of course shareholders that they forget about customers and staff. They will do anything to achieve immediate results with no long-term thinking and unfortunately shit rolls downhill. Corporates create a crippling hierarchical management structure thick with self-protecting middle management that 1) hide the truth from senior management and 2) fuck over the little guys at the drop of a hat.

Yes, I am a through and through capitalist but try hard to look after my staff. If they're happy, your customers will be happier. Flat management structure - no bullshit. Never made anyone redundant even when time where tough. No problems firing the losers, they drag everyone down.

Good luck.

[Fatjim]

I'm gonna get all conspiracy theory with you.

Nowadays in our PC world mgmt have to let workers have a say in major changes like this. It helps stop all the personall greveince stuff.

So what they do is come up with an initial proposal that they know won't fly, just so that the real plan doesn't have to go through the feedback part.

When we had one last year they rolled out this plan, took the feedback and then rolled out a completely different plan.

Now as far as what you should do, just make the best of it, never burn your bridges, don't get angry and look after no.1 and those around you if you can.

[festus]

Yes been there done that, the global company I worked for was the same, too much management and not enough workers.........IT has always gone through changes and always will, restructering is the norm and management always cover arse and self preservation is what they are good at..........