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    Well that was interesting. Did an exam yesterday... an the computers at tech. Power would randomly turn off and reset the computers so had to save like every 3 seconds just in case I lost anything...

    Shouldv'e been cancelled like auckland uni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timber020
    A loss of power for a little while and everyones in tears, makes me worry what happens when something really bad hits.

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    I was standing in the office listening to the coffee machine gurgle as the generator purred away, and I listfully gazed out the window to see if surrounding businesses were once again being given the privilege of receiving electricity from the powers that be...

    when a train went past!

    Aha, the power must be on then, I thought to myself.

    But then I remembered, we had to buy our train carriages from an Australian MOTAT because we still run an antiquated diesel system. I had a slight chuckle as I remembered our rail does not run on electricity.

    Bloody good planning though - they kept the trains on diesel for 50 years after every one else because they knew there'd be power cut!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeak the Rat
    I had a slight chuckle as I remembered our rail does not run on electricity.
    Actually, they do run on electricity that is generated by a big smelly diesel engine. I recall the media saying that Britomart is the worlds first underground train station for diesel trains. I wonder why? Dumbasses.

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    I think all of the hicks in the sticks are missing the point about yesterdays power cut.

    It wasn't a great hardship for anyone in Auckland, apart from maybe the fags on Ponsonby Rd that had to drink cold lattes and mince about in half darkness.

    It was just a fucking huge embarassment to a country that is struggling to haul itself into the 21st century with piss poor power distribution, tranport and communication networks.

    I hope the tourists don't lose interest in The Lord of The Rings bullshit cos there is no other sustainable industry that can't be replicated more cheaply and efficiently elsewhere in the world. After all, cows and sheep only need grass and water. And maybe tender loving from Poos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    I think all of the hicks in the sticks are missing the point about yesterdays power cut.

    It wasn't a great hardship for anyone in Auckland, apart from maybe the fags on Ponsonby Rd that had to drink cold lattes and mince about in half darkness.

    It was just a fucking huge embarassment to a country that is struggling to haul itself into the 21st century with piss poor power distribution, tranport and communication networks.
    Agreed - and I would add the hardship was felt by business owners (y'know - the ones that had the balls to put their saving on the block, and actually get out there and do something - rather than just enjoy the safety of a "secure job"

    I hope those in the power industry have at least identified any single points of failure and are cutting them out of the system... This is pathetic.
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    You imports have to realise something. For a country with the population of Hampshire, we've done pretty fucking well with our infrastructure. The ROI on any infrastructure work we do is shit compared to the UK, because the UK is a similar geographical size and 55 million more people live there. Our GDP is crap compared to all the Scandinavian countries but we have more kilometres of sealed road per head of capita than they do.

    We used to sustain high comparative standards of living by borrowing heavily. When the UK closed their market for primary produce to us in the'70s, we couldn't pay back the loans, then the US effectively closed its markets to us in the '90s, just as we started making money, by subsidising every local US primary produce and niche fodd and alcohol industry that we were exporting there. Then Argentina couldn't pay for our exports in the early 00's any more because their currency tanked - it goes on, and on. If you want better infrastructure, pay more tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    If you want better infrastructure, pay more tax.
    A good point - but wouldn't/couldn't that have come out of the budgetary surplus? I realise Transpower needs to operate under it's own financial mandate, but someone of this impact should be entitled to a hand out of sorts... Auckland City kissed $59m+ bye bye yesterday.

    I understand there is an option of using a 110kV line and upgrading it to 220kV. I hope that gets through the ever restrictive RMA....
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    Do you think Southampton would be without power for 8 hours if a fucking cable snapped?

    You can fire all the shithouse historical excuses you want but the fact of the matter is that NZ sees itself as a western, developed country and Auckland is the economic hub. The infrastructure is poorly developed and fragile.

    Maybe if it wasn't a socialist nanny state giving hand outs to refugees and wastrels then more could be invested on infrastructure? It's not like our tax rates are particularly low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder
    A good point - but wouldn't/couldn't that have come out of the budgetary surplus?
    No, because that would send a message about Government ownership of infrastructure at a time when they are trying to shed responsibility for all NZ infrastructure.

    Road, rail, power generation and telecommunications are the things that I would argue SHOULD be Government owned. Commercial organisations don't do anything until they absolutely have to, and then it is usually the cheapest bid. Government on the other hand plans to dot the "i"s and cross the "t"s, irrespective of cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    Do you think Southampton would be without power for 8 hours if a fucking cable snapped?

    You can fire all the shithouse historical excuses you want but the fact of the matter is that NZ sees itself as a western, developed country and Auckland is the economic hub. The infrastructure is poorly developed and fragile.

    Maybe if it wasn't a socialist nanny state giving hand outs to refugees and wastrels then more could be invested on infrastructure? It's not like our tax rates are particularly low.
    Missed the point by a mile mate.
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    Got home to find the power still off due to a local fault (yay).
    Had a really pleasant few hours sitting in front of the fire with candles going, glasses of red wine, and making soup on top of the firebox!
    Bloody brilliant! Even managed to miss the first items on the news which was a bitch-fest about no power!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Missed the point by a mile mate.
    Care to clarify your point then?

    Other than saying we are small but we're doing ok compared to so and so?

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    Apology from Transpower

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    Care to clarify your point then?

    Other than saying we are small but we're doing ok compared to so and so?
    This country had a pretty good infrastructure base when it was built by central government. Unfortunately, that was all paid for by heavy borrowing and eventually, after a few bad projects most of the vital infrastructure was sold off, privatised or turned into an SOE. The govt needed cash and wanted to reduce it's footprint in the technical areas.

    My own feeling was that the political landscape had become dominated by failed teachers and lawyers who felt threatened by engineering types so the deliberately sold off anything technical and grew the 'social' side of govt.

    In the old day, infrastructure was planned in cycles with the aim of being ahead of the demand curve at all times. It was pretty well done in the main and while people talk about the high cost of everything then, that was more to do with the technology of the time and people taking a long term strategic view.

    These days the view is more 'commercial' but not particularly good from an engineering point of view. ie - yes we can connect you very quickly but the thing we are connecting you to is - erm - creaky - BUT LOOK! We will give you a free mouse and its BLUE.... The face of all this technology has been buffed up, but the core has not developed much from the 70's.

    So, to answer the question, NZ has a world class commercial infrastructure. ie, Private industry runs these systems and you get what you pay for.

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