The Big Martial Arts Thread

**Wolf** · 15th June 2006, 22:41

Originally Posted by gareth_d

Aikaido from what i've seen is tai chi but with balls right? Basically using the force your opponent creates to defeat them?

Aikido does a lot of letting the other person expend the loin's share of the energy. Apparently if you can lift 16lb (less than 8 kg) off the floor you can be profficient in Aikido against anyone.

Lift it off the floor, not raise it over your head or bench press it. Few people over the age of 4 cannot physically lift less than 8kg - my 4-year old son can lift a nearly-full 10kg bag of spuds.

You learn to think in terms of balance and allowing your opponent to take themselves off balance - you guide them in this endeavour. You also learn arm locks etc and you (most importantly) learn to fall and land safely.

They do not teach falling in Karate or TKD - they just assume you will always be playing safely on the tatamis (mat) as per the rules of the sport. In Real Life, you may well be taken down by someone. Aikido and Judo teach you how to land safely without injury and regain your footing.

They also teach you how to make sure the other person falls. From my experience, Judo is more physical than Aikido when it comes to throws and there are some throws that seem to me to be your power vs their power. The Aikido throws seem to be easier to execute and require less energy.

Do not at all regret the breakfall training I had in Judo as a child - it has saved me serious injury a large number of times. I would brobably be brain-damaged or dead due to one fall I had down a flight of concrete steps were it not for my instinctive breakfall.

**c4.** · 15th June 2006, 22:53

Just learn to deal with F**kwits!
You can see trouble from a distance..... if you look!
You hardly ever need to 'fight'.
I subscribe to the fitness call.
if you can't out wit them mentally, you probably should be able to either, outrun them, or, at last resort, smack them. You will NOT be able to beat every one physically. Brains first ladies.
They're called animals for a reason.

**Deano** · 16th June 2006, 07:59

Originally Posted by gareth_d

and is Muay Tahi the brazillian one thats the 'fighting dance' where they made it into a type of dancing because martial arts and fighting were outlawwed or something to that effect?

Dare I say anything in case I get told to fuck off again......? I like to think everything I say in here I say as if I was in a conversation with someone and would therefore say it to their face. Somehow I don't think a lot of 'keyboard warriors' do the same...

Muay Thai is from Thailand - uses punches, kicks, knees and elbows. Used to be used in warfare against the Burmese (who also have their own martial art), in conjunction with swords etc.

The fighting dance is Capoiera (sp) and from South America. I believe it was outlawed so yes, they integrated the moves to look like dancing.

I think the base thing is a great idea - try out various styles before making a decision. Choose the one that suits you and your needs the best.

**Lias** · 16th June 2006, 09:25

Originally Posted by The_Dover

Can you hook a brother up with an AK? I got some issues with the neighbours cat.

Getting an AK47 illegally is probably only marginally easier than getting one legally :-) Given that you pretty much have to make mother theresa look like a sinner to get a

But hunting rifles/shotguns are an absolute piece of piss to get without a license.

**cowpoos** · 16th June 2006, 09:31

Originally Posted by Lias

Getting an AK47 illegally is probably only marginally easier than getting one legally :-) Given that you pretty much have to make mother theresa look like a sinner to get a

But hunting rifles/shotguns are an absolute piece of piss to get without a license.

sks 7.62 x 39 's are a dim a dozen in NZ.... just get a big fucker mag of ebay and bingo....basically a ak47

**cowpoos** · 16th June 2006, 09:32

Originally Posted by Deano

Dare I say anything in case I get told to fuck off again......? I like to think everything I say in here I say as if I was in a conversation with someone and would therefore say it to their face. Somehow I don't think a lot of 'keyboard warriors' do the same...

we love you man...............

**mikey** · 16th June 2006, 13:02

Originally Posted by gareth_d

and is Muay Thai the brazillian one

is that gareth D for dumbass?

thai for, lets guess, thaistralia, nope doesnt sound right
thai for, lets guess thaxico, nope doesnt sound right,
thai for, lets guess thaikong, nope doesnt sound right
thai for, lets guess thaizil, nope

THAI FOR FUCKING THAILAND DUMBASS

**R6_kid:Me** · 16th June 2006, 13:05

Originally Posted by mikey

is that gareth D for dumbass?

thai for, lets guess, thaistralia, nope doesnt sound right
thai for, lets guess thaxico, nope doesnt sound right,
thai for, lets guess thaikong, nope doesnt sound right
thai for, lets guess thaizil, nope

THAI FOR FUCKING THAILAND DUMBASS

yep, got confused with brazilian ju jitsu...

i hear you're a bright spark though.

**cowpoos** · 16th June 2006, 13:07

Originally Posted by gareth_d

i hear you're a bright spark though.

yeah he has a PHd in being a smart cunt and slow rider.......

**mikey** · 16th June 2006, 13:35

Originally Posted by cowpoos

yeah he has a PHd in being a smart cunt and slow rider.......

yeh, agree with both, never claimed ive been fast. but definitly faster than you.

**cowpoos** · 16th June 2006, 13:40

Originally Posted by mikey

yeh, agree with both, never claimed ive been fast. but definitly faster than you.

in your fucking dreams...I can crash better than you to laddie!

**mikey** · 16th June 2006, 14:07

nah you cant, my last one was classiest so far, going down seaview somewhere on a private sober road doing wheelies i ended up sliding along the road as fast as the indian driving next to me, my bike went way faster in the wrong lane. i even made eye contact with the indian. nothign against indians. or asians. or women. but there ALL shocking fukn drivers.

**Finn** · 16th June 2006, 14:49

Originally Posted by gareth_d

yep, got confused with brazilian ju jitsu...

Ju Jitsu was originaly from Jerusilm. In the early days before rifles, men, woman and children were trained in the art of JewDowChop (the old name) to fight off the dirty Arabs. As with everything else the Japs copied it, made it better and called it Ju Jitsu.

**The_Dover** · 16th June 2006, 14:56

Originally Posted by Finn

Ju Jitsu was originaly from Jerusilm. In the early days before rifles, men, woman and children were trained in the art of JewDowChop (the old name) to fight off the dirty Arabs. As with everything else the Japs copied it, made it better and called it Ju Jitsu.

Yeah, maybe Tristan (N4SKIN) could give you some lessons!!