Glock with drum mag

**oldguy** · 18th June 2006, 18:14

Originally Posted by SlashWylde

I seem to recall from reading 'Black Hawk Down' and 'Sabre Squadron' that 0.50 cal weapons were used extensively and I don't remember reading any thing about the operators not shooting directly at people with them.

I think in that situation the 50 was used for suppression, were you have to move through narrow streets, don't think you would want to stick your head up when one of those was being fired in your direction.

**Sniper** · 18th June 2006, 19:00

Originally Posted by jahrasti

If the 50 is your crew served weapon (mounted in a hummer for example) then you can go for gold on anything you want but if you have a smaller weapon as a coax 7.62 for example then you have to use that but if you were to have a problem with the coax then you can use the 50 again. clear as mud ?

Where did you hear that?? In a combat situation you use the Gimpy as a movable supression platform where the .50 will fuck anything up that it tends to shoot at. You cannot find cover with a .50 firing at you cause there is fuck all that stops it.

I do like the clear as mud statement

**Sniper** · 18th June 2006, 19:03

Originally Posted by Korumba

I have a video somewhere from a AC130 and those dudes are using a 105mm gun to take out individual people on the ground so I guess the 50 cal rule is a crock of shit when applied to that.

Called the AC130 Spectre gunship. Now I would love the feeling of being in one of those.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm

**onearmedbandit** · 18th June 2006, 19:06

Originally Posted by Sniper

You cannot find cover with a .50 firing at you cause there is fuck all that stops it.

That's, just, friggin' awesome.

**jord** · 18th June 2006, 19:08

thats a bit freakin awesom isnt it

**scumdog** · 18th June 2006, 19:18

Saw avideo where a .50 is used to shoot up a 1970 Buick at the end, do any of you muzzle-heads recall such a video and the name of it??

The whole video was on different calibres and there effect on different targets etc. - petrol tanks, bullet-proof vests, cars, etc.

**Sniper** · 18th June 2006, 19:46

Seen it. I have it on CD somewhere and I'll dig it out for you SD

**Swoop** · 19th June 2006, 09:08

Originally Posted by Sniper

According to the Geneva convention you may not DIRECTLY shoot someone with a .50.

That would make a mockery of the snipers 1600yd confirmed kills in gulf war (1&2) then. It also dosen't apply to US forces, as I have been led to believe that they have never signed the convention...???

EDIT for post below: No worries Sniper.

**Sniper** · 19th June 2006, 09:27

Originally Posted by Swoop

That would make a mockery of the snipers 1600yd confirmed kills in gulf war (1&2) then. It also dosen't apply to US forces, as I have been led to believe that they have never signed the convention...???

It was 1654yd kill if I remember. But you are right Swoop, and I did correct myself earlier in the thread

**scumdog** · 19th June 2006, 09:42

Originally Posted by Swoop

That would make a mockery of the snipers 1600yd confirmed kills in gulf war (1&2) then. It also dosen't apply to US forces, as I have been led to believe that they have never signed the convention...???

Well it certainly DOESN'T apply to the 'other side' that's for sure.

Sauce for the goose and all that i.m.h.o.

**Lias** · 19th June 2006, 10:23

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

How about this then?

I could probably get you a discount...

How much ammo does it come with?
I'd be tempted to sell my bike to buy that if its a working weapon and comes with a good supply of ammo.. I wonder how hard it would be to find out what flight helen clark was on and get the gun in place in time *grin*

I still want to get one of these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_XM109

Particularly the BORS system on it.. It gives me wood :-)

To enable the shooter to engage targets out to 2,500 meters, Barrett has developed an integrated ballistic computer/ riflescope system known as BORS (Barrett Optical Ranging System). Historically, long range shooting has been a highly technical endeavor in which the shooter had to make a number of calculations before the trigger could be pulled. These calculations included range to the target, the effects of barometric pressure and air temperature, and the type of ammunition loaded. BORS automatically calculates all these variables, and adjusts the sight reticule accordingly. All the shooter needs to do is enter the ammunition type into the BORS (using touch pads on the BORS console) determine the range (either mechanically or through a LRF) and crank the elevation knob on the scope until the proper range appears in the BORS display. The BORS automatically determines the temperature and barometric pressure, as well as the cant or tilt in the rifle itself, and incorporates these enviro-physical factors into its calculations. Once the proper range has been entered, the shooter need only put the target under the crosshairs and pull the trigger.

The Block I version of BORS is available now, while Block II (which will include an integrated range finder) is expected to become available in '05 with Block III (new optics, Night Vision capable, wide angle, stabilized image) becoming available in '06. Lastly, Barrett believes that the BORS system will be completely compatible with the 200mm air-bursting grenade featured on the OICW and that similar ammunition could be developed for use in the XM-109, as well as adapting the BORS to the OICW, to provide ranging and environmental information to the 20mm grenade launcher.

**Lou Girardin** · 19th June 2006, 10:31

There's nothing new anymore.
Luger had a snail mag for the P08 artillery model with a 6" barrel. Not full auto though.

**Swoop** · 19th June 2006, 10:57

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Luger had a snail mag for the P08 artillery model with a 6" barrel.

Worth as much, if not more than, a decent luger these days. Most of the snail drum mags were thrown away by the owner/s since they were awkward to carry, store, etc.

Originally Posted by scumdog

Well it certainly DOESN'T apply to the 'other side' that's for sure.

Sauce for the goose and all that i.m.h.o.

Exactly right!