Whales - Who Cares?

[ManDownUnder]

Whales ...fart.

TAX THE BASTARDS!

[Sniper]

In fact, did I not hear on the news last night that Japan has a whalemeat mountain, due to the general public not wanting the stuff, and the owners of said mountain will use it for pet food??

Aparrently it was 5000tonnes stockpiled. Why hunt if you have reserves?

[Finn]

Basically it's in their culture to eat Whale meat. Simple. I don't see NZers creating such noise about some of our own cultural problems right here in our own country.

I've eaten whale meat before. It's very tasty but it takes a while to get through an average sized fillet.

[Flatcap]

The only reason not to kill whales is to provide the people in Kaikoura gainful employment. There is no other reason - none of us will come across a whale in our daily activity so if they disappear it will make very little difference

[oldrider]

I'm not a fan of whaling. In fact I'm not keen on any living creature being killed .................but meat pies and steak are fundamental rights!

So we have NZ on the world stage beating up the Japanese, Norwegians, Greenlanders etc for wanting to kill and eat whales. At the same time New Zealanders are killing lambs by the thousands per day, and cattle, pigs and deer by the hundreds/day. Bit of a double standard here.

Except for vegetarians, we all eat meat and thus animals have to die. So why are whales any different?

The thing that really pisses me off in NZ about whales and the attitude of whale savers especially is.

When whales beach themselves and despite all of the best efforts to save them, they come back and die,

We dig big holes and waste them by burying the bloody things!

That has to be the silliest behaviour of them all, to me they are just bloody stupid greeny hypocrites.

Maybe I am wrong, enlighten me why this should be the correct practice of the day! John.

[placidfemme]

The only reason not to kill whales is to provide the people in Kaikoura gainful employment. There is no other reason - none of us will come across a whale in our daily activity so if they disappear it will make very little difference

You can see whales from time to time, I've sat on Mairangi Bay Beach, and Long Bay Beach and seen a whale at each place. Ok I only saw one at each place... once only. But still would be shit to know they are all gone, and you won't be able to see them anymore other than in Museums and shit...

Also look at NZ's tourisim industry, there are a lot of "Whale watchers" that pay semi-good money to sit a few meters away from them and just watch... The Maoris have a cultural history with whales too, so it would be a loss to them.

It would make a big difference without them.

[Wasp]

Well im against the whole issue... sort of

I figure they total number of whales allowed to be hunted in a week should be half to 3/4 of the number of the average amount of whales born in a week.

[Finn]

You can see whales from time to time, I've sat on Mairangi Bay Beach, and Long Bay Beach and seen a whale at each place.

Yeah those large chicks must have a lot of courage putting a bikini on.

[Flatcap]

You can see whales from time to time, I've sat on Mairangi Bay Beach, and Long Bay Beach and seen a whale at each place. Ok I only saw one at each place... once only. But still would be shit to know they are all gone, and you won't be able to see them anymore other than in Museums and shit...

Also look at NZ's tourisim industry, there are a lot of "Whale watchers" that pay semi-good money to sit a few meters away from them and just watch... The Maoris have a cultural history with whales too, so it would be a loss to them.

It would make a big difference without them.

Agree with the Whale watching tour angle, don't really care myself if they disappear. Mind you, I am a total landlubber and wouldn't really care if all sea creatures disappeared

[placidfemme]

Yeah those large chicks must have a lot of courage putting a bikini on.

lol theres a LOT more of those whales around then the ones that swim in the ocean... the japs should hunt them instead...

[Lou Girardin]

The younger Jap generation doesn't eat whale meat, only the older folks who were fed it at school.
It's like us old farts having a taste for curdled milk.
There's 50,000 tonnes of frozen whale meat stockpiled in Japan now.
This issue has gone beyond whether to hunt whales or not for Japan, it's become a matter of 'face'. They won't back down until we can give them an easy out.

The best quote about whaling is from "Me, myself and Irene"
"She'll be eating blubber as soon as I can free willie."

[placidfemme]

Agree with the Whale watching tour angle, don't really care myself if they disappear. Mind you, I am a total landlubber and wouldn't really care if all sea creatures disappeared

I'm not much of a water person either. I used to love fishing back home, but havn't been fishing once here in NZ. Don't go to beaches much or eat seafood (no comments), so other than the ocean ecology being ruined without them (for whatever reasons), I wouldn't miss them either. But we're talking about the biggest mammel (sp) on earth, an animal that scientists still havn't quite figured out (by following, watching, studying... not hunting, disecting and killing them).

By saying they don't affect your life, so you don't care is like saying well I've never seen an elephant or rhino, so I don't care if poachers kill them all, or lions or any wild animal for that matter. They are a part of this planet, some of them have been around longer than us, it was thier home first and we fucked it for them.

But the thing that gets me the most, is that my kids, or my kids children, will never see these animals alive.

At the rate the world is going the only animals that will survive after another 50 years or so will be the ones we produce to eat. And that will be a very sad day.

[Karma]

Where's the fun in hunting whales? It's not like they present a challenge at all... oh look, it's a huge whale.

Why not try hunting something harder instead, like pilchards?

[The_Dover]

Why not try hunting something harder instead, like pilchards?

Where's the challenge in hunting canned fish?

[Swoop]

There's 50,000 tonnes of frozen whale meat stockpiled in Japan now.
This issue has gone beyond whether to hunt whales or not for Japan, it's become a matter of 'face'. They won't back down until we can give them an easy out."

The maoris own them all. Claimed them under the treaty. Japs touch them and they are had up for theft.

Done.

Next world problem for Swoop to solve?