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    Alpha jets - shoulder mounted wings!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman
    Alpha jets - shoulder mounted wings!
    I second that motion, & move that it be accepted by at least a quorum of KBers
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    Dassault-Breguet-Dornier Alpha Jet
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    Quote Originally Posted by gareth_d
    Later in the show talking about 'the future' they showed a situation where an AUAV (armed unmanned aerial vehicle) was escorted by two F-117's... tell me, how does an aircraft unable to defend itself defend another aircraft?
    Was it defending them or was it a show of toys?? I mean the f-117 is one of the more futuristic looking planes out there, and it could easily be turned in to an air to air plane with some rotary launchers in the bomb bay and a few AIM-9's or whatever.


    And this is what I want to play with http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ucav.htm

    hell it would be fun designing some of them!

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    I once got buzzed by an Aussie F14 near National park so I raced that sucker back to Ohakea. He was touching down just after I crossed the Bulls bridge.
    I call it a draw.
    That old Prelude silver bullet of mine went like a cut cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafe
    Nice,

    I take it you're in the States then?

    Not very often you'll see F18 & F16's in NZ.
    Good shot of the Herc, so did the US not have any globemasters on dusplay? They make the hercs look like a joke!
    Is that F4's (first photo) the display team are using?
    Nah, I'm in Holland.

    The Patrolle de France is the first photo, Dutch SAR is second, US Blue Angels third, Dutch F16 4th and Jordanian display team last. I don't know what the Jordanians are flying.

    The Dutch and the US are on very good military terms at the moment due to a skirmish in the middle east, so the US are more than happy to demonstrate their wares at Dutch air shows. There was heaps more hardware but I've got to sort thought the photos a bit first... Watch this space.

    The F35 JSF was also on display. An odd looking fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fryin Finn
    I once got buzzed by an Aussie F14 near National park so I raced that sucker back to Ohakea. He was touching down just after I crossed the Bulls bridge.
    I call it a draw.
    That old Prelude silver bullet of mine went like a cut cat.
    lies... Australia never had F-14's. May have been an F-111 if it was swing wing, with twin after burner. My guess is he went to wellington for a pie before heading back to NZOH, dont think you could match Mach 2 no matter how pimped your prelude was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gareth_d
    lies... Australia never had F-14's. May have been an F-111 if it was swing wing, with twin after burner. My guess is he went to wellington for a pie before heading back to NZOH, dont think you could match Mach 2 no matter how pimped your prelude was.
    I think he could some of them aint that fast http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...3&d=1144368433

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartman10
    The F35 JSF was also on display. An odd looking fighter.
    That thing is a piece of work, looks fucking awesome when it opens up for vertical takeoff.


    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    Was it defending them or was it a show of toys?? I mean the f-117 is one of the more futuristic looking planes out there, and it could easily be turned in to an air to air plane with some rotary launchers in the bomb bay and a few AIM-9's or whatever.
    You'd need to completely change the radar systems. I know the B2 is capable of carrying twin rotary changers with 32 missiles on each. Thats for ARAAM(?) anti-radar missiles, i think due to the fact that it has an active IR radar.

    I dont see the point in the F-117 being used at all, when they had the F-22 Raptor on the program as the 'next generation' fighter anyway.

    UCAV's scare me, especially the ones that are designed to fly autonomously with no human input. Wouldn't mind building a scale model of the predator gloval surveyor though, i've seen a kitset available with live video streaming, thing has insane range too, the radio gear looked like it weighed about 10kg though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    I think he could some of them aint that fast http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...3&d=1144368433
    hmm, i think i know the guy who took that picture

    The dutch SAR looks to be a Bell 214 (twin engined, four bladed). As for the jordanians... those almost looks like Extra 300s or similar, definately looks to be serious aerobatic as they have reference stakes on the outside trailing edge of each wing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gareth_d
    Wouldn't mind building a scale model of the predator gloval surveyor though, i've seen a kitset available with live video streaming, thing has insane range too, the radio gear looked like it weighed about 10kg though.
    Happen to know of a autopilot board about the size of a paper back book, with the ability to upload flight paths etc on to it via a comms link, might need a few $$ though

    And I think that a truely autonomous vehicle is a long way off, but one that does everything with a small element of decision making left to a controller is well already in the building

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    they have semi-autonomous going at the moment i think. Needs to have the flightplan and co-ords put in by a human, but can fly a pre-filed plan and respond to inputs during flight. Can't be bothered looking through my old mans collection of Australian Aviation mags to find out though. UAV's have played a big part in the current gulf war though, would have to be the best r/c toy out at the moment, along side the boat/plane thing that someone posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gareth_d
    they have semi-autonomous going at the moment i think. Needs to have the flightplan and co-ords put in by a human, but can fly a pre-filed plan and respond to inputs during flight. Can't be bothered looking through my old mans collection of Australian Aviation mags to find out though. UAV's have played a big part in the current gulf war though, would have to be the best r/c toy out at the moment, along side the boat/plane thing that someone posted.
    The first gulf war saw the first ever surrender to an unarmed vehicle with white flags being waved at a UAV armed with ASM's

    qoute:they have semi-autonomous going at the moment i think.

    yeah they have one at work with the worlds smallest autopilot board!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gareth_d
    You'd need to completely change the radar systems. I know the B2 is capable of carrying twin rotary changers with 32 missiles on each. Thats for ARAAM(?) anti-radar missiles, i think due to the fact that it has an active IR radar.
    The AMRAAM is an anti-air missile (HARM is the anti-radiation missile normally used) that can be fired from anything with compatible hard points and targeting software. Once programmed it is fired and usually follows a predetermined course before switching on it's internal radar for the final phase. I don't think it's compatible with the rotary launchers though because its engine fires to launch it from the rail rather than being dropped as the rotary launcher requires. Could be wrong about that though.
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    thats the missle i was thinking of. The rotary thing came from a game called ATF (advanced tactical fighters) by Janes which is a rather reputable setup, however it was a game.

    Come to think of it, im not sure what i was thinking, HARM missles seek radiation from radar sites, so is pretty fucking pointless with them.

    One thing that does scare me is the nuclear warhead capacity of the B2, not sure if it was 16 or 32, but either is a scary number, especially when multiplied by the number of B2's the USAF has at its disposal. Mutually assured distruction? I think so...
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