Dog Chips

**Filterer** · 22nd June 2006, 14:02

Originally Posted by Deano

Because it can't.

It only makes traceability easier.

But if some low life's unregistered, unchipped dangerous dog attacks a kid, the low life will 9 times out of 10 do a runner and leave the dog to avoid being caught.

How does microchipping counter this scenario ?

becasue 9 times out of 10 that same dog will have been picked up by animal control previuoisly when out wandering as a puppy. They then must be registered before they are returned but doesnt stop them not registering the next year or for that matter wearing the rego tag in the first place.

**Filterer** · 22nd June 2006, 14:05

Like i said 9/10 we ahve seen dogs before or have had some history with us, however saying that i am talking about auckland city where we have enough staff and small enough area to do regular (read 2x daily) patrols of problem area (read GI, parts of panmure, penrose etc etc etc).

The case can be made however that in other areas (even south auckland/papakura etc) that this cant be done

**bobsmith** · 22nd June 2006, 14:36

Originally Posted by Motu

Same as the gun law - the wrong people still have guns.And a lot of people getting hot under the collar about a percieved problem - Filterer says there is a grandfather clause,only newly registered dogs will be chipped.But it's fun to get upset I guess.

I agree... Let's outlaw dogs all together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn dogs, they are way too dangerous and stupid, I don't know why anyone would eat something so ugly either. I stick to the cows for food and cats for pets. (before anyone accuses me of being a dog hater... YES I HATE DOGS!!! You would be too if you've been almost killed by dogs several times in your life... one of those times, the dog was supposed to be a nice gentle dog with a responsible owner too... until the stupid dog saw me, and this was all in a different country where the dogs weren't even put down.)

**placidfemme** · 22nd June 2006, 14:38

Originally Posted by bobsmith

You would be too if you've been almost killed by dogs several times in your life... one of those times, the dog was supposed to be a nice gentle dog with a responsible owner too... until the stupid dog saw me, and this was all in a different country where the dogs weren't even put down.)

Which country was that?

**bobsmith** · 22nd June 2006, 14:42

Originally Posted by placidfemme

Which country was that?

Korea..... F&^#%ng dog lovers everywhere (but than where in the world doesn't these days) and I don't know about now but back than no one had their stupid dogs restrained....

**bobsmith** · 22nd June 2006, 14:43

I should go back find the bastards and sue them all for emotional damages for the rest of my life...

**magicfairy** · 22nd June 2006, 14:45

Originally Posted by ajturbo

whats the point of having them chipped???
what are the benifits?

why waste my money on a chip?... i have a plastic tag that goes on the collar.... just got to find the collars now!..

my dogs come when i call
they sit when asked/told.

what will a chip do to improve them???????????????????????????????????????

IF you have a valuable dog, or the sort that might be nicked by low-lifes for fighting a chip is proof that you own it. A dog collar / tag can fall off or be taken off. I know of a case where a rotty was stolen, owner recognised it months after, and was able to prove ownership cos it was chipped. Low-life swore it was his dog - didn't know it was chipped.

**Badcat** · 22nd June 2006, 14:45

Originally Posted by placidfemme

Why are people so anti having dogs chipped? ..

i dunno - surely they'd be more efficient and powerful when chipped?
made a huge difference to my car.

**placidfemme** · 22nd June 2006, 14:48

Originally Posted by bobsmith

Korea..... F&^#%ng dog lovers everywhere (but than where in the world doesn't these days) and I don't know about now but back than no one had their stupid dogs restrained....

Don't they eat dogs over there? (just asking...)

Back home dogs are breed to attack and kill. So the dogs here seem pussy in comparisson.

I'm a dog person. In my eyes, cats are lazy, hard to love (unless they want to be loved) and blah... dogs play with you, protect you, snuggle up to you, and generally have great characters...

I havn't owned a dog here in NZ, but back in Zim from as young as I can remember we always had at least 2 dogs at any given time. One time we had as many as 9. All un-registered, all trained to attack on command. And yet for such violently trained dogs, they never mauled anyone (unless told to).

I've only been attacked by a dog once, and it was a dog that we had taken from the SPCA, it had been abused by the previous owner, I was kicking a ball around and it must have thought I was going to kick it and it attacked me. It only had enough time to rip my shoe off before Roxy (our rotwieler [sp]) jumped in to protect me...

So can't really blame the dog for that.

**placidfemme** · 22nd June 2006, 14:51

Originally Posted by magicfairy

IF you have a valuable dog, or the sort that might be nicked by low-lifes for fighting a chip is proof that you own it. A dog collar / tag can fall off or be taken off. I know of a case where a rotty was stolen, owner recognised it months after, and was able to prove ownership cos it was chipped. Low-life swore it was his dog - didn't know it was chipped.

Bling

That is the first solid reason I see for having a dog chipped (my ex-flatmates have a stupid $2500 looking mutt).

But in this case, it should be the owners choice... not forced on them

**Deano** · 22nd June 2006, 14:51

Originally Posted by bobsmith

I agree... Let's outlaw dogs all together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn dogs, they are way too dangerous and stupid, I don't know why anyone would eat something so ugly either. I stick to the cows for food and cats for pets. (before anyone accuses me of being a dog hater... YES I HATE DOGS!!! You would be too if you've been almost killed by dogs several times in your life... one of those times, the dog was supposed to be a nice gentle dog with a responsible owner too... until the stupid dog saw me, and this was all in a different country where the dogs weren't even put down.)

Same applies to a lot of people. Maybe apart from the eating bit...

**Filterer** · 22nd June 2006, 14:53

Originally Posted by placidfemme

Don't they eat dogs over there? (just asking...)

Back home dogs are breed to attack and kill. So the dogs here seem pussy in comparisson.

I'm a dog person. In my eyes, cats are lazy, hard to love (unless they want to be loved) and blah... dogs play with you, protect you, snuggle up to you, and generally have great characters...

I havn't owned a dog here in NZ, but back in Zim from as young as I can remember we always had at least 2 dogs at any given time. One time we had as many as 9. All un-registered, all trained to attack on command. And yet for such violently trained dogs, they never mauled anyone (unless told to).

I've only been attacked by a dog once, and it was a dog that we had taken from the SPCA, it had been abused by the previous owner, I was kicking a ball around and it must have thought I was going to kick it and it attacked me. It only had enough time to rip my shoe off before Roxy (our rotwieler [sp]) jumped in to protect me...

So can't really blame the dog for that.

Thats the thing dogs can be very well trained, just look at the police dogs, taught to bite but only in certain places and only on command. The dogs that bite members of the public do it by in large becasue of how they have been bought up, not their breed etc

**Deano** · 22nd June 2006, 14:57

Originally Posted by Filterer

The dogs that bite members of the public do it by in large becasue of how they have been bought up, not their breed etc

Owner's should be licensed - no licence, no dog. Bad history, lose licence.

The courts have made rulings preventing convicted persons from owning any further dogs.

Speaking of Police dogs - I know a guy who was set upon by two Police dogs after surrendering, which just proves it is not the dog that is the problem but the owner.....