Dog Chips

[NC]

Oh I thought this was a thread about dog chips, thinly sliced bits of dog meat deep fried to perfection

[Filterer]

Does anyone know if the non chipping only applies to farm dogs or does it include rural dogs, say people with a rural RD address?

Pretty sure you actually have to register your dog as a farm dog on the rego form......not just that you live rural. You prob also need to have some form of proof that is a farm and ud get fined $400 i think if you were found out to be lying about it

[Deano]

Isn't that supposed to be the same for vehicles - you lose your lisence you don't drive? Doesn't seem to stop quite a few of 'em...

So stricter enforcement of existing laws and sensible sentencing are the key.....seems to be a trend.

Rather than the knee jerk reaction of introducing new, uneccesary and impracticable laws to pander to public outrage.

[placidfemme]

So stricter enforcement of existing laws and sensible sentencing are the key.....seems to be a trend.

Rather than the knee jerk reaction of introducing new, uneccesary and impracticable laws to pander to public outrage.

Exactly.

[MattRSK]

Owner's should be licensed - no licence, no dog. Bad history, lose licence.

Oh please no, dont give them anymore ideas. How the hell does this goverment thing work. I would never think up anything as dumb as chipping dogs. Who do these people represent??? Man im only 19 and im a cynic. Arrgh I even know what a cynic is dammit. Oh well politics is not something I even want to know about. motorbikes make the world go round, thats good enough for me.

[Big Dave]

I have ours done anyway.
We usually spend a fair amount on a dog and its a great way to identify it if stolen.
Our German Shepherds all had tattoos in their ears too.

I like Kumera chips best now.

[Dooly]

Pretty sure you actually have to register your dog as a farm dog on the rego form......not just that you live rural. You prob also need to have some form of proof that is a farm and ud get fined $400 i think if you were found out to be lying about it

Oh ok cheers.....bummer.

[Jantar]

Does anyone know if the non chipping only applies to farm dogs or does it include rural dogs, say people with a rural RD address?

From this morning's ODT, interpretate it as you wish:

The Exemption:
Local Councils will have the power to exempt any dog they wish.
Guide Dogs, Hearing ear dogs or companion dogs are exempt.
Dogs kept by the police and other Government Depts, those working in pest control or owned by secyrity guards are also exempt under the definition of working dogs.

A Working Dog:
The Dog control act 1996 gives a wide definition of a working dog.
It includes any dog "declared by resolution of the territorial authority to be a working dog.... or any dog of a class...[owned] by any class of persons specified.


It all seems rather vague, and a dog specified by one council as a working dog may not be recognised by a neighbouring council. If in doubt just register your dog as a companion dog.

[placidfemme]

From the Herald this morning:

National News
Dog officer says law a farce

Friday June 23, 2006
By Simon O'Rourke


A dog enforcement officer says the watered-down version of the proposed new dog microchipping law is a farce.

The amendment will exempt "working" and "companion" dogs from being compulsorily microchipped from July 1.

It does not affect dogs that are already registered but will apply to puppies registered after that date and to dangerous or menacing dogs.

Farmers are celebrating the exemption, as microchipping was cited as an unnecessary cost of compliance.

However, their joy could be short-lived if councils decide to offset the increased costs of dog control administration by raising registration fees for "working dogs".

The South Waikato District Council dog enforcement manager, Kerry Beckett, said the legislation in its watered-down form was ludicrous.

Ms Beckett, who is also president of the Midlands Animal Control Institute, did not know what a "companion dog" was, despite having worked as an enforcement officer for 12 years.

The four Green Party MPs had done enforcement officers across the country a huge disservice, she said.

"They should have turfed it out if they were going to do this.

"It [microchipping] needs to be all or nothing. Logistically this is going to give us a huge nightmare."

The definition of working dogs was open to interpretation and debate.

Pig or possum hunters who sometimes owned fearsome dogs could consider themselves working in "pest control", Ms Beckett said.

"They haven't consulted with the people who actually work in the field. It's now not black and white.

"Surely they can see the standard wording for working dog is too open. People are going to throw this back in our face and say, 'No, I fit into this [exemption]'."

It was inevitable that territorial authorities would differ on how they enforced and interpreted the law, Ms Beckett said.

The more complex law would result in increased costs of compliance, meaning that costs would be passed on to either ratepayers or those who were being forced to microchip their dogs.

Internal Affairs spokesman Colin Feslier said it would be interesting to see how territorial authorities would cover the costs of increased compliance of the new law.

So either way you still have to pay....

[The_Dover]

Mmmmm dog chips, and szechuan cat.....

[scumdog]

ANOTHER farked up useless law.

And when the first kid gets bitten by a 'chipped' dog?

The pollies responsible for the law will walk away washing their hands of it and saying "nothing to do with me"

[buellbabe]

... hasn't this topic already been done to death? I couldn't give a toss about chipping my dogs, I don't have to anyway cos they are already registered. As it has been pointed out, chipping is only compulsory for newly registered dogs... Anyways the Kennel Club have got a new scheme up their sleeves so it seems the good ol' working dogs are gonna be exempt thanks to them.
Everyone knows that chipping ain't gonna stop attacks, its just helpful in identifying dogs and returning them (or not..) to their owners.
Seems to me that more effort should be put into actually enforcing existing dog bylaws...

[Pixie]

Is in the case of dogs that maul people (mostly kids ). But in 90%+ of those cases, the owner hasn't got the dog registered,

In most of the cases of dog attacks I can remember,the dogs were registered.
The registration didn't prevent the attacks then,and the chips won't prevent attacks in the future

And just as it's a proven fact that ,given enough time,100% of all robots will go insane and attack their masters.What will happen with all these cyberdogs in the future?

[Motu]

All this hue and cry about dogs being chipped - and cats have been chipped for some time.Every cat bought at the SPCA is neutered and chipped before being handed over to the new owner.

So....it;s ok for cats but not dogs? I smell media hype and spin...political posturing.

[Edbear]

The rationale for dog chipping is like saying that registration plates on cars prevent road accidents.

Not to mention WOF's! They prevent people driving unregistered, unwarranted vehicles on the public roads...