Dog Chips

[Filterer]

In most of the cases of dog attacks I can remember,the dogs were registered.
The registration didn't prevent the attacks then,and the chips won't prevent attacks in the future

And just as it's a proven fact that ,given enough time,100% of all robots will go insane and attack their masters.What will happen with all these cyberdogs in the future?

You are talking about a small number of high profile cases, not the general ones that happen everyday of the week. By in large 90% of trouble comes from 10% of the owners which don't or try their hardest not to register dogs

[The Pastor]

Wake up people.

What outrageos law have labour brought in while this debarkle (hehe) of the dog chipping has eaten up all the media/news time?

(I don't know the answer because I distance my self from all polotics)

The chipping law in itself is completely useless. There is no bennifit at all to getting a dog chipped, (unless these chips programme the dog to mow the lawns, use the toilet or somthing along those lines). This looks to me to be a big distractoin for somthing.

Don't think it could happen? Ha! labour have very strong ties to the news/media. They own/support some big journalist unioin or somthing of the like.

The law is going to be un enforced anyways. The only time it will be enforced is if your dog bites someone or is caught by the pound. If your dog doesnt run away or bite people, dont get it chipped. Simple. Enough time has been wasted with this topic.

[Filterer]

All this hue and cry about dogs being chipped - and cats have been chipped for some time.Every cat bought at the SPCA is neutered and chipped before being handed over to the new owner.

So....it;s ok for cats but not dogs? I smell media hype and spin...political posturing.

Im not sure about the adoption dogs from the spca but if you adopt from the auckland city kennels up in silverdale the dogs are neutered AND chipped as well

[Hitcher]

You are talking about a small number of high profile cases, not the general ones that happen everyday of the week. By in large 90% of trouble comes from 10% of the owners which don't or try their hardest not to register dogs

You're talking about knuckle-dragging hoodies and their ilk who need to own big "dogs with attitude" to cover for their own lack of self-esteem and insecurity.

[Filterer]

So many people have said that chipping wont stop attacks
heres my take

The NZ legal system and i believe all others around the world are based in the fact that if you do the crime you do the time.

However the underpinning idea is of a legal system is to discourage people from commiting a crime in the first place by having the threat of penalties rather then actually penalising people after they commit a crime however this must be followed through for the threat to work.....

Now assuming ALL dogs were "born" with microchips the threat of punishment would be there and the system would work. THe main problem is ensuring that all dogs are chipped as far as i can see

[Filterer]

You're talking about knuckle-dragging hoodies and their ilk who need to own big "dogs with attitude" to cover for their own lack of self-esteem and insecurity.

I think the technical term is small penis syndrome, some have boy racer cars, others nasty dogs and some motorbikes hehehehe

[buellbabe]

Filterer... I hear what yr saying but mate I live in Sth Auck and I know for a FACT that the Rangers in Manukau don't have the manpower (or $$?) to enforce the bylaws... if they did then my neighbour wouldn't have been forced to move to get away from the FIVE mongrels on the other side of her fence. When the Dog Control officer was questioned as to WHY they were letting the A-holes keep 5 UNREGISTERED dogs on a property big enuf for 1 the reply was that it was "too much hassle to do anything about it".
Chipping ain't gonna change that.

[ajturbo]

if anyone offical is reading this....can they please telll me how chipping would have prevented me from getting bitten on the weekend?

picture this.
me in dog race... going ok... catching up to my mate, we both had 2 dogs,
the 4 dogs were runing shoulder to shoulder for at least 2ks, somtimes i would pull away, but my mates dogs are mal's and so are very powerfull, we were in the frieght class, so we had nearly 50ks of lead on board... my guys just could pulll away,....
so there we were going about 15km/hr side by side till the last corner, and the crowd were there, and then all of a sudden one of my mate's dogs thought i would be funny to pull the hair of one of my dogs... well as you can emagen (sp bad to day) my dog was a bit pissed off and ... well i got off the rig and tried to seperate them.... mean while the "other 2" were doing their best to get out of the situation.... and in all the excitment one of the 4 dogs got me........ ouch i said.. every one let eacher go and my boy thought fu## this i'm out of here.......
how would chipping stop that????
our dogs have raced together for the last 4 years????

[cheese]

They are trying to stop the undesirable people owning dogs and being a nuisance with them.

Re: - stopping south Auckland’s dog breeding ground.

[Filterer]

Filterer... I hear what yr saying but mate I live in Sth Auck and I know for a FACT that the Rangers in Manukau don't have the manpower (or $$?) to enforce the bylaws... if they did then my neighbour wouldn't have been forced to move to get away from the FIVE mongrels on the other side of her fence. When the Dog Control officer was questioned as to WHY they were letting the A-holes keep 5 UNREGISTERED dogs on a property big enuf for 1 the reply was that it was "too much hassle to do anything about it".
Chipping ain't gonna change that.

Yes you are right, it won't change a hell of a lot around the rest of the country apart from ak city....i started work for animal control just after the carolina anderson attack and at times with staff leaving, and some sick/in holiday ect i remeber times there were only 2 senior officers and me.

Now however after the big public outcry and increase in funding etc there are 12 full time staff and it has made a difference, I read a statistic in the paper in the weekend that said the number of reported bites had gone from 500 down to the order of 130 per year.

That is an amazing change but you are right unless your region steps up the funding considerably then your gonna have to put up with what you have got and you are right microchipping wont have a large (any?) impact for you

[SPman]

Oh I thought this was a thread about dog chips, thinly sliced bits of dog meat deep fried to perfection

I keep thinking its a Korean fast food thread.......

[What?]

I am utterly opposed to the chipping law.

As Hitcher said, it won't prevent attacks any more than registering cars stops crashes.

Also, there are members of society who breed dogs that will never be reistered, and they certainly are not going to start just because there is a new set of laws in place. My neighbours are among these, and the council won't touch them, probably due to the social club the neighbours belong to.

But the biggie - a whole heap of MP's supported this law change because some vet's reckoned it is a good idea. Of course they would - they are going to charge around $90 to insert a 20 cent microchip into a puppies neck. Who wouldn't support a law that would give them an income like that (effectively $1000 per hour at least)