Now they have gone TOO far methinks...

[Finn]

The nurses at Startship also said that once the babies were "dropped off" at hospital, the family pissed off. They probably went to the pub.

Is there such a thing as self genocide?

Edit: Yes there is. I just googled it.

[Flatcap]

The nurses at Startship also said that once the babies were "dropped off" at hospital, the family pissed off. They probably went to the pub.

Is there such a thing as self genocide?

Edit: Yes there is. I just googled it.

The alarming thing is that this is not an isloated occurance - a friend of ours worked at Kids First and said they got a case like this each week. The only reason we heard about this one was because there was a 'leak' and breach of patient confidentiality. You can bet that someone at the hospital is being reprimanded as we speak.

The stories this friend tells about the types of injuries suffered by these babies make you feel physically sick - in comparison you could consider these twins lucky

[Grahameeboy]

The nurses at Startship also said that once the babies were "dropped off" at hospital, the family pissed off. They probably went to the pub.

Is there such a thing as self genocide?

Edit: Yes there is. I just googled it.

I used to like Genesis!!!!

[Colapop]

Turn left KYBoy and keep following the mauve brick road...

[Grahameeboy]

Turn left KYBoy and keep following the mauve brick road...

Geeze just as well I have the support of KBer's to keep me on the straight and narrow eh!!!!!

[98tls]

Yes, some ARE fundamentally bad. And they are NOT the ones with illnesses or "too thick". They are the perfectly healthy, usually quite intelligent ones who just prefer to be parasites. You only have to look at the behaviour of the "tight twelve' to plainly see that they are NOT lacking in cunning. Nor are they mentally or physically ill. They have elected to be parasites. And should be eliminated, they same way that a farmer will eliminate parasites like hydatid worms.

well said....These people offer society nothing so in return should get nothing in return,as has been pointed out in previous posts i am so sick of paying tax to fund these bastards lifestyles,a programme of castration and and rigorous investigation before you get any welfare check would be a good start.Having a job would at least be a start to instilling some beliefs and values into the bludging lowlifes and the "there isnt any jobs" reply is just bullshit.

[Colapop]

Geeze just as well I have the support of KBer's to keep me on the straight and narrow eh!!!!!

You straight??!!?? Bwahahahahahaha!!


Yes bad parents are bad ... (on thread)

[Grahameeboy]

You straight??!!?? Bwahahahahahaha!!


Yes bad parents are bad ... (on thread)

Tis true.....I'll show you......!!!

[Colapop]

see what I mean....



Really bad parents are really bad.... (still on topic)

[Grahameeboy]

see what I mean....



Really bad parents are really bad.... (still on topic)

Okay, I will only see it if you mean it dear......

[Beemer]

Great, in today's news on Stuff the 'aunties' are claiming to know who killed the babies:
We know who killed the twins - aunts
02 July 2006
By TIM HUME

Two aunts of the murdered Kahui twins say two separate members of the "tight 12" have told them who inflicted the fatal injuries.


The women say they will approach police with the information, and hope the details will help break open their relatives' stonewalling of police inquiries.

Denise and Fiona King, older sisters of Chris and Cru Kahui's mother, Macsyna King, confronted four of their siblings, their partners and other relatives at a family meeting on Wednesday. Family members are central witnesses in a police inquiry into the deaths of the three-month-old boys a fortnight ago.

Chris and Cru died in Starship hospital five days after being admitted to intensive care with severe brain damage. One of the boys also had a broken femur. Police have launched a double homicide inquiry but no one has been arrested, with the investigation thwarted by the family maintaining a pact of silence over who was responsible for assaulting the babies.

Fiona King said she asked Macsyna at the meeting: "Na wai te mahi tukino? (Who did this awful thing?)". Her sister told her who was responsible.

Fiona said she also asked her brother, Robert King, who the killer was last Sunday. She said he named the same person. Fiona said she believed both siblings were telling her the truth, and were covering up for the person out of a sense of duty. Police said they could not comment on the information, but said the women would be interviewed.

Denise King, who travelled up from Christchurch last week to demand answers from her family, said she and Fiona learned of their nephews' deaths only last Sunday, the day a picture from the tangi appeared on the front page of a newspaper. King says while she loves her family, she is deeply ashamed by their actions in not telling police the identity of the babies' killer.

"I want to get answers - for my nephews, for our family name and for my own sanity."

Fiona had been given contradictory explanations from family members as to how the thigh bone of one twin had come to be broken. She said Robert told her it was broken when Chris was sitting on the couch holding one twin in one hand, his toddler Shane in the other and had the other twin lying beside him. The toddler wriggled free and landed on the baby, injuring him.

She said Macsyna's explanation was that the femur was broken when the baby was yanked out of her arms by a nurse when the infants were taken to hospital.

An orthopaedic specialist told the Sunday Star-Times that there was no way the injury was unintentional; babies' bones were so soft that to break a femur would require it to be bent at a 90-degree angle.

Denise said Macsyna, who had been away from the house for 12 hours overnight before she returned to the property and took the twins to hospital, had told her the babies had been left in the care of their father, Chris Kahui.

Fiona said Macsyna had told her that for those 12 hours she had dropped her brother Robert in Manurewa, then headed to her sister Emily's house in Papakura.

Denise said Macsyna had told her "there had been no dispute between her and Chris because the relationship was good".

Family members at the Papakura address refused to speak when approached by the Star-Times.

Macsyna King's lawyer, Marie Dyhrberg, would not comment.

Inquiry head Detective Senior Sergeant John Tims said police were waiting on pathology and forensic results, which were expected in the coming fortnight.

Denise King, 40, is the second oldest of 14 siblings, who have several different mothers but are all the offspring of Mac King, a mechanic who died 15 years ago of a brain tumour. Mac King, after whom Macsyna was named, had been a member of a motorcycle gang, Ngapuhi MC.

She says she played an active part in raising Macsyna and Macsyna's three other full siblings, Emily, Ellen and Stuart, when they lived in Mangere, before they went to live with their mother's relatives in the Wairoa area. Macsyna later met a partner and had children in the area, but left.

Stuart, whose partner Moana-Louise is the sister of the twins' father, Chris Kahui, and Emily were among the regular visitors to the house where the twins were injured.

The large family unit, including Chris Kahui's father, William "Banjo" Kahui, were last week based at Emily and her partner Pouaka Hepi's Papakura residence.

King said Macsyna's childhood was "rugged" and somewhat dysfunctional, as Macsyna's mother was often absent. The mother committed suicide about five years ago, King said. "I think that was the turning point for the whole lot of them."