Serious advice please

[Two Smoker]

600's are a great class... I think you should go for it frosty... But forget about ever getting the title, it just wont happen... If you really want to be competetive you have to have the talent and the $$$/financial backing from sponsers. But F3 isnt a very big class at National level, F2 is (at least 15 bikes racing) F2 is far more competitive and the riding skill is higher (excluding Andy, Terry and Jason who are exceptional riders aswell as having the right machines in F3)...

[roogazza]

Hey two smoker, can you tell me what F2 is ! is it for older 600's ?
I really don't know how you guys finance racing nowdays, unless of course you're old and have a great job ?
Wonder if we'll ever see 45 bikes on the grid again ? Gaz.

[Two Smoker]

Hey two smoker, can you tell me what F2 is ! is it for older 600's ?
I really don't know how you guys finance racing nowdays, unless of course you're old and have a great job ?
Wonder if we'll ever see 45 bikes on the grid again ? Gaz.

Formula 2 is 600 Supersport bikes (but they can have cams unlike in the rules for 600 Supersport) 750 Vtwin water cooled, 250 GP bikes, 675 Triples etc...

There is no Formula 2 at National level... Only National level Classes are; Super Bike, 600 Supersport, Formula 3, GP250, GP125, Pre 82 Senior and Pre 82 Junior...

As for funding... I have one sponser, all the rest I use absolutley ALL (and i really do mean all) my earnings on racing...

[ManDownUnder]

Go for it mate - take the step up and never regret you "could have done this/that". Even if you fall on your arse you'll have done everything you can.

Follow those dreams man.

edit - adding to what 2 smoker said - hanging around guys and gals considerably better than has got to be good for you too - no?

[Steve_R6R]

Go For it.
F2, apart from the tyres, is pretty cheap. I got a '03R6 at turners, it was a repo and a bit rough but I bunged a power commander in it and a new (used) end can on it. Robert Taylor sorted our the suspension. I'm still getting the hang of the thing but I have managed to scratch into the top ten occasinally. Beating some of those litre bikes in the f1 class is the best bit!

[vtec]

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but it's still on topic. I'm looking at getting a crash damaged 06 GSXR600. I want to race it in production supersports. Will this bike be competitive without spending heaps of money on mods. If I was an awesome rider, would I be able to get podium finishes on a close to stock bike like this.

Secondly, what are the rules about tyres in this class. I'm hoping that you have to run street tyres, but I have a feeling that you are allowed slicks. I'm by no means rich, so will unfortunately be doing this on a shoestring budge. Also, is production supersport a national class. Or is it just F2. F2 seems like it would be a lot more expensive to be competitive. Does anyone have a clear idea about all the rules? Two smoker?

[k14]

On a stock bike you'd be lucky to come in the top 20 at nationals, and thats if you were a damn good rider. More likley to be in the last 5.

At club level its hard to say. Depends who and how many show up. Wouldn't have a chance of winning if any decent riders on modified bikes showed up though.

In supersport only street tyres are allowed to be run but that doesn't really change how much it costs to use tyres if slicks were allowed. One thing that does try and keep costs down is that you are only allowed 1 set of tyres for all 3 races at a nationals round. Most guys use 1 set for qualifying and 1 set for races.

Other rules include, modified internals in front shocks and full replacement of rear. Aftermarket fairings, exhaust and modified ecu. A few others but those cover the major modifications allowed.

If you are looking for a step up from streetstock I'd suggest F3 or 125GP. Both are good stepping stones for going up to 600's.

[vtec]

I'm pretty determined to go straight to 600's. I know it'll be fierce, and that's what I want, within bounds of course. Production supersport seems perfect. Anyway, the bike sold before I got my offer in. Bummer, I'll be on the lookout for another crash damaged, or someones last season race bike.

I love the idea of racing a Fuel injected bike. I hate pissing around with carbs.

[Kwaka-Kid]

SV650.

With all the restrictions they are about to be putting on them, itll be no different to Supersport.

[motobob]

Frosty Hell of a choice isn't it. 600 hundy's are exciting and more suitable for track days. But in F3 you learn to ride a bike properly and get placings to brag about. You've done your time in F3 so its step up time.

I notice Cleve has gauged your skill level as "useless old fart" lol and included you at our level even though you will have a 600SP spec bike.

My foray into 600Sp at Puke was a shock at how fast the top runners are. Even Club level with a good field is frigging hard work for a pissy result. Still join us and we will get Greg P to push for a Veterans class since our numbers are growing. Rules will have to exclude fast old pricks like Stroud.

AMCC F2 needs you son.

[motobob]

As for funding... I have one sponser, all the rest I use absolutley ALL (and i really do mean all) my earnings on racing...

Knew this chick when I was racing push bikes who was a stripper (I mean exotic dancer ). She used to have lots of flash gear and said she could make $800 a night (going back a few years this). She had to put up with a lot of shit from the other girls though.

You should try something similar, get a routine based on those new leathers. That Showboys place still going?

[FROSTY:Me]

OK --Looks like--FOR sale --SV650 race bike
With a lousy old bloke rider it won the amcc club champs
A great step up for a F3 racer

[motobob]

Welcome aboard bud. So who's 600 are you buying?

[Keystone19]

Knew this chick when I was racing push bikes who was a stripper (I mean exotic dancer ). She used to have lots of flash gear and said she could make $800 a night (going back a few years this). She had to put up with a lot of shit from the other girls though.

You should try something similar, get a routine based on those new leathers. That Showboys place still going?

And I'd just like to point out that it was NOT me...




Not a bad idea though come to think of it...

[motobob]

[QUOTE=Keystone19]And I'd just like to point out that it was NOT me...
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Yeah right.

Psst get them to take that photo in the entrance of you off the wall. You know the one where you a just wearing the snake. EVE the Enchantress I think its called. It would make a much better avatar too.