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    Chat/irc FAQ

    This faq will be here for a few days only. After that, it'll be integrated into the main site faq by SpankMe. However, as I don't have the ability to edit the main site faq I wouldn't be able to make any changes. So if there's anything that people want added/answered now is the time to do so.





    thealmightytaco
    Also in the new chat, is there any way to change font colours permanently? We've found the ctrl+k and then a number thing but you've gotta do that for every post you do in there, tad annoying, and lookin' at screeds of black gets confusing.
    SpankMe changed one of the options. Colours/font styles are persistant while you're logged into the chat

    plenty of people
    java user name invalid and Unable to connect : java.net.ConnectException : Connection refused
    I asked SpankMe to change the default username slightly. The server rejects usernames that have a space in them. Tis all fixed now.

    inlinefour
    However after installing the necessary bits onto my computer and successfully getting into the new chat room, I find myself not wanting to be there anymore. Is there anyway of going back to the older vchat format or is it just me?
    It's just you. The old system was dodgy at best and only duplicates (badly) something that already exists else where and has been tested to death for many years now.

    Zorst
    1. We could use KB smilies
    The java client has its own built in and they're really difficult to change. Sorry. But you can use smileys by simply typing in something like :) or :D or ;) or :p etc
    2. We could easily open other members profile pages from inside the room
    irc isn't part of vBulletin and runs on an entirely seperate server so extracting that information is very difficult. It may be looked into in the future but it's a lot of work to get this working.
    4. It was easier to read the messages people typed
    Click the "Font" button down beside the colours. A new window will pop up. Change the number in the 2nd box and click "Ok"
    5. Conversation from before you entered the room was visible
    As I mentioned above irc is run on a totally seperate machine. It isn't possible to show the history from before you joined because the server a) won't give it (security reasons) and b) the server doesn't actually store that stuff anyway.

    Crashe
    3: Chat room - Before you used to have it so you knew who was in the chat room. Now there is no way of knowing who if at all anyone is in there.
    Same answer as for the 2nd question Zorst asked.

    crashe
    MT explaining how to change nickname . and also how to do the /me thingee
    To change your nickname there's a small box at the bottom right of the irc chat window. Type your new nick in there and press Enter
    The /me is what is known as an action in irc. If I do the following in irc:
    /me adjusts himself
    you will see:
    * Mental-Trousers adjusts himself
    So it is how you can show that you are doing something rather than saying something.

    crashe
    MT - what do the "channel" thingee mean at the top
    Above the chat screen there's a button that says "Channel". If you click on that a list will appear that will show you the other rooms that are available on the server. To join another room, just double click on it's name and a new tab will be created that shows you in the other room.

    crashe
    MT - how the font works re the a beside the fonts. what does the staus mean , public and private signs mean at the bottom on java
    At the bottom right of the chat window there's is a panel that has a number of different colours and a couple of "a"'s. The colours will change the colour of any text you type in. The "a"'s change the font style, the top "a" will bold all of your text. The bottom "a" will underline all of your text
    The "Public" row shows you all of the rooms that you are in
    The "Private" row shows you which people you are having private/1 on 1 conversations with.
    With both Public and Private the buttons will be Red if someone has said something
    The "Status" window is the status of your connection to the server. Any messages the server sends you will be in that window. You can ignore it 99% of the time.

    Crashe
    But I then minimise the small box that I was chatting in and it all disappeared.. tried coming back in and was told that my nickname was already on.. like hello that was me... so I had to close down the KB and mIRC browsers and retry again...
    It minimized to the system tray, beside the clock on the bottom right of your screen

    Why do some people have an @ by their name?
    They're room admins. They can do various things like kick/ban people, change the rooms topic etc.

    wtf is tossbot?
    tossbot is the room gaurdian. He doesn't actually do anything that you will be aware of. But he does ensure that nobody is able to take over the entire room and boot people out etc. Just pat him on the head once in a while.

    How come some people don't have nicks that match nicks on kb?
    The server the chat room is on hosts many people from all over the place. Those that you see and don't recognize from kb are most likely people on the server who are being nosey. They're not bots or nasties or anything like that. Just people who aren't actually from kb.

    So wtf are they doing there?? Get rid of them!!
    If SpankMe doesn't want people who aren't registered members of kb in there then something *may* be done, but until he says so, they're welcome. However, even if SpankMe doesn't want them, there's no way in the known universe to stop server operators from being in there, short of taking to their computers with a welding torch.

    So what are server operators??
    They're the people that ensure the whole server runs smoothly and that wars don't break out. They're easily the most powerful and capable people you'll find in irc. They can ban you/your nick permanently or even ban the chat room. So if anyone is getting out of control, I suggest the kb people sort them out before opers get involved cos shit happens when the big sticks come out.

    What are their nicks??
    Myself (MTrousers on kb, Mental-Trousers in irc), Catnip, Otter (server owner), Cyberbiker and Pops (2 of the locals and slightly deranged with it). There are others but you're unlikely to ever come across them.

    Hey, somebody got my email address from irc!!!!
    Can't happen. NOBODY can get your email address from irc unless you specify that it should be public in the options. If you're using mIRC please don't. You should be worried about it revealing personal info like email, so use the java client instead. I strongly urge any women especially to use the java client as it doesn't give ANY info up. mIRC has to be carefully set up it won't show anything personal. Just don't use it. It's a feckin headache and I hate it. The pjirc client is excellent and is definitely what I recommend to people now instead of mIRC.

    Hey, somebody is using my nickname!! What gives?!?!
    Until a nickname is registered, anybody can use it. Just because it's yours on kb doesn't mean you have exclusive rights to it UNLESS you register your nickname in irc. To do that you have to do the following:
    /msg nickserver register
    An email will be sent to you to confirm you are who you say you are. Click on the link it contains.
    Every time you connect to the irc server you will need to identify yourself, otherwise the server will force you to change your nick after 60 seconds
    /msg nickserv identify

    Hey, there's me and someone else with the same name but a number on the end. What gives?
    Occassionally the java client has a brain fart and it will connect to irc twice without disconnecting in between. So, it isn't someone else stealing your nicname, it's actually a ghost. If it happens, it's nothing to worry about. An oper can kick the ghost or you can restart your browser.

    Hey I just got banned!!
    Don't be a dickhead. Someone will remove the ban ....... sometime.

    I keep getting disconnected. What gives??
    Probably your connection or ISP. Unless Clear Net get disconnected from the rest of the planet, the server is up 24/7

    There's people in the chat room but no one is saying anything!!!
    There's a lot of people who lurk. They pretty much just hang out there and check back every now and then to see who's turned up. Most are busy doing other stuff and will happily join in any conversation that pops up. So hang around and see what happens.

    I get a grey square, with a little red X (Applet not inited) or I don't have java installed :(
    You will need to go to http://java.sun.com/ and download the latest installer (in the menu on the right side). Grab it, close you open browsers, run it, restart your browser.

    I'm using Firefox and the java client won't work :(
    You're obviously a highly intelligent and resourceful person so I won't need to simplify things. In the Address Bar of Firefox type in:
    about:plugins
    Scroll down until you find the info about the Java Plugin. Above each one you'll see the name of a file. Remove those files from c:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins then restart Firefox. If it doesn't work, you missed some.

    Fix from Enigma51
    You have to open the icmp protocol on the firewall but also have the ports 0,3,8, and 10 for icmp

    Handy tip
    Use the tab key to complete nicknames so you don't have to type them out in full.
    Type a few letters of a persons name and press tab. You can use any amount of letters. Pressing tab repeatedly cycles through the names that start with those letters.

    From XxKiTtiExX
    If the buttons at the bottom of the screen disappear off the bottom change to the Light Universe skin and rejoin the chat.
    Last edited by Mental Trousers; 14th December 2005 at 22:02.

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    Mtrousers - Thank you so much for answering all the questions...

    Maybe this thread ought to become a sticky.. and keep any questions asked about mIRC and Java chat in here only.
    Plus it stays on topic.....

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    Thanks all. Appreciate your help. Have printed this out so will have a good read of it. :-)

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    i downloaded java and it still won't work so i dunno

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    Are there currently problems with Chat?

    Since about tuesday I haven't been able to log on to chat. I've seen some comments elsewhere suggesting it's been down at times but I haven't been able to get on at all. (Have I been banned?) Can't recall doing anything wrong. I did have an update to windows about then (XP).
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    cheers MT .. have copied then & saved to refer back too

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