SUV Deathtraps

[scumdog]

Anyone driven round Eastbourne, Lower Hutt?

Probably similar to the 'soccer mum' mentality out there.

Peroxide blonde mum's (wives of Dr's, lawyers and the like) done up to the nines using their big 4WD's to drop the kids at school and do the shopping - seems to be more of some sort of status symbol. What a joke - I hope they are paying through the nose for petrol at the moment.

I feel sorry for those mums stuck with a "softroader" - hard to park, gutless for passing and just wait 'til they get a flat tyre!!!

[scumdog]

Good point,My mrs has a RAV4 that she has had for about two months.
Two car park dings so far.My Nissan none and if any body has hit it I hope they had fun because it don't show on my heavy steel bumpers or the heavy alloy running boards.And as for Lou's comment about selfishness,wellcoming from somebody that owns the most single person vehicule on the roads that's a bloody joke.I can and do fit five people plus gear into my Nissan and transport them anywhere in the country cheaper than a 1200cc bike wiith one on board.
But then some only had one eye right.

You say you CAN fit five people in your Nissan but if you look at a lot of those EssEweVees they only have the driver or maybe one passenger in them - might as well be a motorbike!!!

[Jackrat]

You say you CAN fit five people in your Nissan but if you look at a lot of those EssEweVees they only have the driver or maybe one passenger in them - might as well be a motorbike!!!

No I said I can and DO fit five plus gear.And I don't give a damn what anybody else does with their vehicules,they ain't me.
Lumping all 4x4 users into the same catagory is about as smart as doing the same thing to all bikers,It simply doesn't work and never has.

[wkid_one]

gutless for passing

Actually - the Cayenne, Tourag and X5 would give many bikes a fright! Don't stereo type all SUV's as slow. The X5 for example is a 400+ HP beast - and there are quite a few on NZ roads.

The new Holden Avalance is also 270kw.....that would do me nicely.

[sAsLEX]

But would a bike fit on the tray? prob only with the tailgate down, would rather a maloo!

[wkid_one]

DOesn't fit on the back of a Maloo either without the tail gate down - nor a XR8 ute either

[sAsLEX]

Really, thats poor design, seen a few road bikes on hiluxs and the like and assumed a single cab holden would have the same length deck!

[k14]

I am sure that we saw a holden ute with a cbr600rr on it when i was driving up to auckland last year. It was on a 45 degree angle and i am sure the tail gate was up.

[wkid_one]

I am sure that we saw a holden ute with a cbr600rr on it when i was driving up to auckland last year. It was on a 45 degree angle and i am sure the tail gate was up.

Fucken pain in the arse to load and unload if you have to diagonal the bike

[Mongoose]

[QUOTE=wkid_one]Actually - the Cayenne, Tourag and X5 would give many bikes a fright! Don't stereo type all SUV's as slow. The X5 for example is a 400+ HP beast - and there are quite a few on NZ roads.

The new Holden Avalance is also 270kw.....that would do me nicely.

A car they were too miserable to put a boot lid on?

[scumdog]

No I said I can and DO fit five plus gear.And I don't give a damn what anybody else does with their vehicules,they ain't me.
Lumping all 4x4 users into the same catagory is about as smart as doing the same thing to all bikers,It simply doesn't work and never has.

Whoa Whoa! - I was not getting at you J.R., just stating a fact! Imagine if we could get all those people to ride motorbikes to work instead of their cage (which includes EssEweVees), lots more room on the roads

[scumdog]

Actually - the Cayenne, Tourag and X5 would give many bikes a fright! Don't stereo type all SUV's as slow. The X5 for example is a 400+ HP beast - and there are quite a few on NZ roads.

The new Holden Avalance is also 270kw.....that would do me nicely.

Point taken but most of the SUVs in N.Z. are slow diesels, most haven't enough grunt to get out of their own way.

My 2030kg F100 has 430h.p. and I consider it only "adequate" in grunt so maybe I'm a bit hard on the 180h.p. 2000+kg SUVs

[Jackrat]

Whoa Whoa! - I was not getting at you J.R., just stating a fact! Imagine if we could get all those people to ride motorbikes to work instead of their cage (which includes EssEweVees), lots more room on the roads

Yeah sorrry mate.
I just can't help geting me back up over the whole SUV thing cause It's so close to home.I do think that women droping their kids off at school in a small truck is as stupid as anybody else but I just get tired of the whole finger pointing thing that seems to be infecting just about every thing in todays society.
I see that your into your shooting,ect,so you probably know where I'm coming from.In 1975 I walked into a bank on AK's Queen st carrying a pack an Rifle,ten minites after leaving the bank I ran into a couple of beat cops that asked me where I'd been and if I'd got anything.We had a good old yarn and as they left they asked if I had a permit for the rifle.No worrys.
Imagine the same thing today.Hell I can't even shoot rabbits on my own property without some gutless wanker complaining about it.I guess when the bleaters have finished with Guns,Bows,Hunting an Fishing ,SUV's and Motorcycles they will turn on each other.
Hell I'm glad I won't be around to see it.

[scumdog]

Jackrat mate, don't be so sensitive, YOU obvously have a need for such a beast but I laugh when i see an EssEweVee that never tows anything, never goes off the sealed road and has road type radials on the rims.
I would be the first to help but I shake my head when i think of some poor 60kg woman having to change one of those ginormous tyres.

I know where you're coming from re the gun thing, back in the mid '70s I had to kill time in Dunedin waiting for the bus, left my pack at the station and went window shopping with my Sako 308 over my shoulder, nobody said anything (except "been for a shot eh?") and no Police attention - changed days eh? :spudwhat:

[merv]

Love my SUV - carries the daughter's school friends (8 seater), tows my bike trailer like its not there, carries all the materials and tools I need and goes to Macetown and other places OK, things my Camrys could never do.

It doesn't have the road holding or tyre grip the cars have, but I know that and drive accordingly and it only does about 1 km/litre less than the Camrys I had did, and that aint bad for driving a brick through the air (mine is the 3400 petrol not the diesel - didn't want the diesel).