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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave
    The notable scientists and organisations who are saying 'there is a problem' doesn't concern you?
    Nope not one bit. See below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPeanut
    I'm no expert, but the ironic comment about colder weather - global warming is misguided. If the weather is extreme then surely this is evidence of climate change.[...]
    The weather has always had extremes and is always changing. We are existing in a tiny little part of the earth's history where the weather is mostly good so personally I don't feel the need to freak out about it.

    Humans have always fretted about natural phenomenon - pleading with the gods not to send another flood, another drought, or another earthquake - usually believing that it was somehow all their fault that these things were happening.

    Now we have global warming (which somehow now magically includes cold - or what I call "global colding") and in my opinion, it is closely related to other "Chicken Licken" issues like that old classic, "Y2K" or more recently "Bird Flu".

    That's just my opinion of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie
    Humans have always fretted about natural phenomenon - pleading with the gods not to send another flood, another drought, or another earthquake - usually believing that it was somehow all their fault that these things were happening.
    Yeah ok, but when was the last time the earth looked like this?
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    In May '77 I had just started with the MOT. That first winter was one of repeated frosts and 6.00AM starts to be on the Northern M/way for the start of the shift. The issue gloves were so crap that they cut off circulation to your fingers and made the cold worse, so every 5 - 10 k's it was a case of pulling over, putting the gloves on the engine and thawing your hands against the cases.
    I'd never been so cold in my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar
    The effects you describe are more closely aligned with the el-nino/la-nina cycle than with GW.
    Not necessarily. Have a look here:

    http://www.ecobridge.org/content/g_evd.htm#Weather

    http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...climate-change

    Temperatures have been measured world wide for over a hundred years. The planet is getting warmer, that is a measured and recorded fact.
    The (average) temp started rising in the late 1800s and has mirrored the rise in the use of fossil fuels and pollution. This of course may just be a coincidence, but the majority of scientists think not. Still, a lot of them have a vested interest in scaring up research funds, and some are paid by big corporations (particulaly those close to the Bush administration) to say there is no problem. Who to believe? and is it better to be safe than sorry....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPeanut
    Yeah ok, but when was the last time the earth looked like this?

    http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2_dmsp_big.jpg
    Shit yea.... No wonder there is a problem.
    You see how much electricity New Zealand uses compared to other islands? Our damn country is like a floating christmas tree.

    ....and some are paid by big corporations (particulaly those close to the Bush administration) to say there is no problem. Who to believe? and is it better to be safe than sorry....?
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    Was driving a '49 V8 F-1, it was so cold that the heater core INSIDE froze and split!

    And the engine overheated as the water in the radiator froze - and the engine water couldn't circulate.

    And the world MAY be getting warmer (but not down here at the mo.) but so what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog
    Was driving a '49 V8 F-1, it was so cold that the heater core INSIDE froze and split!

    And the engine overheated as the water in the radiator froze - and the engine water couldn't circulate.

    And the world MAY be getting warmer (but not down here at the mo.) but so what?
    Well there's a lot of islanders who will stop being islanders in the first instance.

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    Bloody warm today in Waiwhakamukau. Global warming must have kicked in over night.......

    Hows July treating our Lower South Island friends....

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    Global warming.

    Number of unbiased & reputable scientists who say it is real: SHIT LOADS

    Number of unbiased & reputable scientists who say it's a crock: SOME


    So who's right? I dunno, but I'd put my money on the first group. And keep an open mind that they might be wrong.....

    Safer to assume they are right and turn out wrong than the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeak the Rat
    Bloody warm today in Waiwhakamukau.
    Thats easy for you to say - But it reads 'why fuck a moo cow' ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave
    Thats easy for you to say - But it reads 'why fuck a moo cow' ????
    Cos they're easier to catch than sheep.

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    So what Global Warming going to do to me? Will it stop me riding a bike? If it has no direct effect on me then It doesnt intrest me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sels1
    Not necessarily. Have a look here:

    http://www.ecobridge.org/content/g_evd.htm#Weather

    http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...climate-change

    Temperatures have been measured world wide for over a hundred years. The planet is getting warmer, that is a measured and recorded fact.
    The (average) temp started rising in the late 1800s and has mirrored the rise in the use of fossil fuels and pollution. This of course may just be a coincidence, but the majority of scientists think not. Still, a lot of them have a vested interest in scaring up research funds, and some are paid by big corporations (particulaly those close to the Bush administration) to say there is no problem. Who to believe? and is it better to be safe than sorry....?
    Your first link is to the Hadley centre in the UK. Their data has already been discredited as being both land based and ,whats more, city based. It has not been corrected for UHI.

    The sewcond link to NewScientist is just a collection of links to what are mainly news items. The only pseudo-scientific parts all refer to Mann Bradley & Hughes and the now infamousa hockey stick. Yes some of them do replicate the Hockey stick, but it has now been shown that using Mann's algorithm that even random data will give a hockey stick result.

    As for world temperature being recorded for over a hundred years? Sorry, but there are very few weather stations with unbroken accurate records spanning that length of time, and no fixed sea based stations prior to 1972.

    The only truely global temerature measurement is the MSU data which has only been recorded since 1979.
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