Hyosung: There is... A NEW HOPE!!

**Kickaha** · 4th July 2006, 17:35

Originally Posted by swanny

Stock the GT 650's put out 71 HP at the crank, I imagine the guy is running a stock bike if he is at Club level?

The guy down here was running a stock bike, although it did end up shitting itself before the end of least season

**skidMark** · 4th July 2006, 17:39

omfg with race fairings a hyobag isn't completely fugly unlike the stock fugly mobile

**SwanTiger** · 4th July 2006, 17:45

Originally Posted by spudchucka

So are these Hyosung machines just running SV donks supplied from the Suzuki factory?? Or are they some kind of cheap copy of a Suzuki motor?

No, and Not really.

Hyosung have been around FOREVER developing/manufacturering for a lot of the large Japanese companies, such as Suzuki. A few years back, Hyosung decided to develop their own brand and make their own products. So the word is, a few of those involved in the research & development of Suzuki engines / bikes jumped aboard with Hyosung and helped steer their product line.

I might be ill-informed, but that is what I am led to understand.

The speculation/observation is that Hyosung are recycling qualities from all aspects of the motorcycle industry. They make good looking motorcycles and set or meet the standards - for sample, the GT 650's are similar to the SV 650's but the GT's have 1 HP more - however the SV engine has more of a refined design (obviously).

The GT 125 and 250 engines are a relatively "new" design and will be refined to excellence in a matter of another 2 - 5 years ( in my opinion ).

They've focused on cheaper manufacturering methods, such as the difference between vertical and horizontal splits. Consumables used, such as brake pads, shocks and forks, tyres, etc. are all pratical and not 'bling' - i.e. they do the job, to an extent.

The only common problem with the GT 650's is valve's shitting themselves. I've only heard/read of cases from those in American - go figure.

On korider.com there is one guy who apparently wrote about thrashing his bike and doing stupid things on a forum then claimed for the warranty when there was a related problem with the bike. The dealer happened to frequent that forum and refused to repair under warranty.

**SwanTiger** · 4th July 2006, 17:47

Originally Posted by onearmedHOMO

Now are you sure about that??

Sorry, I take that back after seeing they offer a carbon fibre cover for your fuel filler.

In the looks department

SV 650 vs. GT 650 ... It really comes down to brand loyalty and personal preference.

**ZeroIndex** · 4th July 2006, 18:05

Originally Posted by swanny

No, and Not really.

Hyosung have been around FOREVER developing/manufacturering for a lot of the large Japanese companies, such as Suzuki. A few years back, Hyosung decided to develop their own brand and make their own products. So the word is, a few of those involved in the research & development of Suzuki engines / bikes jumped aboard with Hyosung and helped steer their product line.

I might be ill-informed, but that is what I am led to understand.

The speculation/observation is that Hyosung are recycling qualities from all aspects of the motorcycle industry. They make good looking motorcycles and set or meet the standards - for sample, the GT 650's are similar to the SV 650's but the GT's have 1 HP more - however the SV engine has more of a refined design (obviously).

The GT 125 and 250 engines are a relatively "new" design and will be refined to excellence in a matter of another 2 - 5 years ( in my opinion ).

They've focused on cheaper manufacturering methods, such as the difference between vertical and horizontal splits. Consumables used, such as brake pads, shocks and forks, tyres, etc. are all pratical and not 'bling' - i.e. they do the job, to an extent.

The only common problem with the GT 650's is valve's shitting themselves. I've only heard/read of cases from those in American - go figure.

On korider.com there is one guy who apparently wrote about thrashing his bike and doing stupid things on a forum then claimed for the warranty when there was a related problem with the bike. The dealer happened to frequent that forum and refused to repair under warranty.

that actually sounds about right..

**hXc** · 4th July 2006, 18:47

Originally Posted by swanny

It's a pity that there 250 model lacks power, however, their 125 is capable of 110kmp/h with a weight of around 140kg's (basically a GT 250 frame), pretty impressive if you ask me.

Impressive?!?! Bloody tank if you ask me! My VT250 Spada weighs less than that, and it's 18 years old!

**SwanTiger** · 4th July 2006, 19:46

Originally Posted by hXc

Impressive?!?! Bloody tank if you ask me! My VT250 Spada weighs less than that, and it's 18 years old!

I'm referring to the top speed in comparison to the engine capacity and type and the weight of the bike (150kg (just chcked) body with 14 HP and 125cc engine).

Imagine that minus extra weight = 120kg + 5kg for fairings (gotta look the shizzle) plus geared down to top out at 70kmp/h -- on a bucket track.

Not the most competitive, but competitive enough, and comfortable too.

**spudchucka** · 4th July 2006, 20:45

Originally Posted by swanny

No, and Not really.

Hyosung have been around FOREVER ...........

Cheers for that.

**Cleve** · 5th July 2006, 01:07

Have been in and out of Korea over the years and noticed the older models are both Suzuki and Hyosung badged. The newer models are only Hyosung badged.
Bikes in Korea are generally two wheeled donkeys. Very few used for recreational use, most used for delivery. Which means basically abused with high miles in all kinds of extreme weather. So pretty reliable generally speaking. Like their cars the Koreans are catching up to the Japanese in sophstication and style as well.

**bungbung** · 5th July 2006, 10:24

Originally Posted by swanny

I'm referring to the top speed in comparison to the engine capacity and type and the weight of the bike (150kg (just chcked) body with 14 HP and 125cc engine).

Imagine that minus extra weight = 120kg + 5kg for fairings (gotta look the shizzle) plus geared down to top out at 70kmp/h -- on a bucket track.

Not the most competitive, but competitive enough, and comfortable too.

My bucket weighs 67kg

**vtec** · 5th July 2006, 10:59

I just gained a new respect for Hyosung. But will only fully respect them once they match the Inline 4 250cc Jappers from the early 90's on performance, handling, and reliability. Bring it on Hyosung. Do it for the squids.

**ZeroIndex** · 5th July 2006, 11:16

Originally Posted by vtec

I just gained a new respect for Hyosung. But will only fully respect them once they match the Inline 4 250cc Jappers from the early 90's on performance, handling, and reliability. Bring it on Hyosung. Do it for the squids.

I doubt they will do an inline 4, as they seem to be content with the v-twin engine series.. however, there are rumours that they are planning a 1500cc monster that will put out around 200hp to contend with the Busa and ZX14

**vtec** · 5th July 2006, 11:24

Yeah I thought as much. Just wishing that some chinese company will get the moulds for the CBR250 and ZXR250, and just pump out tonnes of them. The alternative was waiting for Hyosung to make a new and improved one. But I think you might be right... they're keeping their smaller bikes twins, as that is much easier.