Happy birthday America!!

[Sniper]

No, just Sniper in a candid moment.

Fuck you dickhead. I told you not to photoshop me anymore you sick pervert. Why do you have this fasination with me.


Actually it is Spork, you managed to put my head on his body. Was that one of your special nights?

[SARGE]

I see you're still claiming to represent the unified view of Islam. What's the salary like?

WTF???..

dude .. switch to Diet "P"..the full strength shit is fucking you up

scroll back and re-read the thread Einstien

[jimbo600]

Um. End of the Ottoman Empire was 1923. Not that long ago, within living memory. And it was overthrown by Kemal Ataturk - ie the Moslems overthrew the Empire themselves. No Western involvement at all.

And the sucessor state to the Ottoman Empire? Turkey, a NATO member , and US ally. Are you arguing that Turkey is embarked on a war with the USA? Cos I think it might be news both to the Turks and to the USA.

In the 16th and 17th centuries, the Ottoman Empire was among the world's most powerful political entities, with the powers of eastern Europe constantly threatened by its steady advance through the Balkans and the southern part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Its navy was also a powerful force in the Mediterranean. On several occasions, the Ottoman army invaded central Europe, laying siege to Vienna in 1529 and again in 1683 in an attempt to conquer the Habsburg domain, and was finally repulsed only by great coalitions of European powers at sea and on land. It was the only non-European power to seriously challenge the rising power of the West between the 15th and 20th centuries, eventually becoming an integral part of European balance of power politics, hence blurring the distinctions.
The dissolution of the empire was a direct consequence of World War I, when the Allied Powers defeated the Central Powers in Europe as well as the Ottoman forces in the Middle Eastern theatre. At the end of the war, the Ottoman government collapsed and the empire was conquered and divided among the victorious powers. Subsequent years saw the declaration of new states from the remnants of the Ottoman Empire. Republic of Turkey, which established in central lands of Empire included Ottoman Dynasty in 150 personae non gratae of Turkey. In 1974, after 50 years, the Grand National Assembly of Turkey granted the right to re-acquire Turkish citizenship to the family descendants, which completed by the head of the family, Ertu?rul Osman V, in 2004.

So no the muslims did not overthrow the empire themselves, Allied forces did during the 1st WW and they (extremists) hate us for it.

[Waylander]

yea man... i got the CocaCola 600 on tape..got a big box of Budweiser..pack of Marlboro and a can of squeeze cheeze and Ritz crackers ..


Gawd Bless America..

y'all give us a shout when you get in the shit..happy to lend a hand




yea well Ixion.. every army need Cannon Fodder

gawd bless the Frogs


oooooo... lookie .. Jack Daniels Tennesee Whiskey

Dammit!! Knew there was a reason I wanted to be in auckland this week....

Jamezo... get a fricken life. Or better yet go live in russia or china since you're so facinated by everything comunist.

[jazbug5]

Or better yet go live in russia or china since you're so facinated by everything comunist.

Er...

actually, I just deleted what I was going to say. Can someone a little more eloquent fill our young Waylander in..?

Thanks.

[The_Dover]

Ok,

Russia is no longer communist you illiterate ass monkey.

[Lou Girardin]

Thats BS mate, they've (ME extremists) have had it in for the West since the end of the Ottoman empire,

Do you know why?
Read some history of the middle east. Pay particular attention to the massacre of 1.5 million Armenians by the Turks in 1915. A massacre that the US will not acknowledge for fear of upsetting the Turks. The Allies broken promises to the Arabs in 1917 after they helped defeat the Turks.. The Israeli massacres of Palestinians in 1948 and 1967. The Chattila and Sabra refugee camp massacres by Christian Phalange forces supported by Israel and ignored by the US. The Israeli shelling of the Quada refugee camp. The slaughter of the Kurds and Shia muslims by Saddams forces while the US stood back and did nothing. (Correction, they did something, they supplied the choppers Saddam used.)
And on and on it goes.
It all adds up to bit more than 2,900 dead Yanks.
Even Kiwis would be extremists if they'd been treated like that.

[The_Dover]

Are you a Roman Catholic Lou?

You don't seem to like our foreskinless friends too much?

[Lou Girardin]

Are you a Roman Catholic Lou?

You don't seem to like our foreskinless friends too much?

I used to,then I learnt more about the things they've done. You're never too old to learn and change your mind.

[The_Dover]

I don't think I'll ever change my lifestyle choice...........

My mind is firmly made up.

[SARGE]

Do you know why?
Read some history of the middle east. Pay particular attention to the massacre of 1.5 million Armenians by the Turks in 1915. A massacre that the US will not acknowledge for fear of upsetting the Turks. The Allies broken promises to the Arabs in 1917 after they helped defeat the Turks.. The Israeli massacres of Palestinians in 1948 and 1967. The Chattila and Sabra refugee camp massacres by Christian Phalange forces supported by Israel and ignored by the US. The Israeli shelling of the Quada refugee camp. The slaughter of the Kurds and Shia muslims by Saddams forces while the US stood back and did nothing. (Correction, they did something, they supplied the choppers Saddam used.)
And on and on it goes.
It all adds up to bit more than 2,900 dead Yanks.
Even Kiwis would be extremists if they'd been treated like that.

yea.. and those fucking Yank bastards are picking on those poor defenseless North Koreans now..

death to america

[Sniper]

Damn sure the Koreans started that too.....

[SARGE]

Damn sure the Koreans started that too.....

hey piss off you warmonger... the US just wants Korea's KimChee

its all Bush's fault

[Sniper]

hey piss off you warmonger... the US just wants Korea's KimChee

its all Bush's fault

EDITED
Its now Japans fault. They are upset a missile from a third world country got too close? There should be a war now. Im not a war monger, Im a fool, ask Zed, he told me..

I wonder if our resident Atheist can help calm things by helping others believe that its the other sides Gods fault?

EDIT: Dont forget its also Bushes fault that maybe at some time they recieved aid and training from th USA

[slowpoke]

They honestly believe that the Christian crusade is still going on.

IT IS!!!!
Or have you not listened to the God bothering shite spruiked by the mad cowboy? Sometimes I swear if the camera would just pan down you'd see George Dubya sitting on a clergyman's knee. The clergyman would have his hand up George's ass and would be moving his lips like a bad ventriloquist......