The Good Oil ?

[wkid_one]

Its their Synthetico - synthetic oil......was using the Motul Oil before - but the Repsol is much much better.  Instant improvement in gear change and noticeable reduction in the clutch out in neutral noise that VTR's make.

Wouldn't ride with anything else in a Honda now.......Repsol have invested so much time in Honda that it appears to be demonstrated from what I've seen in the difference the oil makes.

[Kwaka-Kid]

They say that stuff about everybike by the sounds of it i was told Kawasaki's were known for clunky gear changes.. and the old Suzuki is.. and my Honda single is.. fuckit, they are all clunky barsteds!

and the GS1000 makes the worst ever noise @ low revvs neutral without clutch.. sounds like the whole gearbox is juddering around ready to explode.. heh.

but meh, from my experience ANY new oil ive used has always improved that 3000km down the road...  but yeh, i personally love my Putoline - oh and for cars i use BP Visco5000 great oil...

[Dave]

Hi guys, sponsored by ELF so id better put in a plug for them.
I had a team mate last year using shell oil in his race bike and sending his motors away to get rebuilt.Once we switched him to ELF he sent his motor away at the specified interval for a rebuild and got a call from the engine builder asking why he wanted it rebuilt-it had no wear in it and everything looked brand new!
I also had a coolant leak on my racebike at the first round of the nationals this year-the temperature went off the guage and still no siezure-detonated the motor and destroyed the piston,but the lubricant was still doing its job.(by the way,still came 4th)
This is on a 2 stroke,but the elf 4 stroke oils are equally as good.
over 70% of world GP teams are using elf oils.
If you want to talk about the range give me a call at work.
Kiwi Mobile Mechanics 09 443 3840

[Kwaka-Kid]

Can we get cheap ELF thru u if our mothers hav ebeen having both their cars serviced by your dudes for years now? :P

mwahaha.

[Dave]

always able to negotiate,Let me know what your after,ie. 4 stroke,synthetic,gearbox,etc. i'll get some pricing options for you.

[NZred]

a little confused now ..
I was advised to use Motul semi-synthetic in the VTR1000.. 20w-50. maybe 15w-40.

[SPman]

Running Repsol Sintetico 10W/40 in the YZF (after reading Wkids posts - does that mean its crap? - nahh), and it is good.Its actually a semi synthetic - like Motul 5600 etc. Which one were you talking about, Dan, this one or the Full synthetic?

[Kwaka-Kid]

Running MT Eden Motorcycles Putoline DX4, swear by it great stuff!

[Dave]

wkid

.......Repsol have invested so much time in Honda that it appears to be demonstrated from what I've seen in the difference the oil makes.

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Repsol never had anything to do with the four stroke development-It used to all be castrol.
Even in the factory manual for the Honda racebikes it specifies Castrol or Elf oils.
But hey- if its giving good protection, and the gearbox and clutch work nicely-then stick with it.

[wkid_one]

The Repsol Honda racing team - heard of it?

[Dave]

Thats a sign on a bike- not an oil in the bike!
Don't recall ever seeing a Repsol VTR though.
Maybe they did secret testing somewhere.

[Kwaka-Kid]

hoe damn, a good ol' fashioned shoot-out

Go Wkid1, Go Dave, Go Wkid, Go Davey!

hahah erm, i sorry wkid but like i think daves the man when it comes to oil :P

[NZred]

** Castrol do have an oil developed specifically for the V twins,.. but not available in NZ,.. apparently available in Aussie. **

kinda sorta strange,.. I'm sure it would sell here.

[erik]

Damn it (), the article linked to at the start of this thread seemed to be saying that motorcycle oils were no better than the automotive oils they tested, but then pretty much all the posts that followed seemed to be saying they use specific motorcycle oils for their bikes.
So is the article not relevant?

I'm going to be doing a bunch of maintenance on my bike this weekend, chaning the oil and filter is one of the things I'll be doing. When I changed the oil and filter on my brother's zzr250, I used Elf moto 4 (I think it was called) because that's what the guys at Red Baron said they used. But it was like $20/litre which seems pretty expensive to me.

So I thought I'd do a bit of research, and found this old thread which seems contradictory.

So now I'm (still) not sure what type of oil to use.

Anyway, so I guess the general consensus is that the article linked to at the start of the thread isn't good? Or that it is good, but that motorcycles with wet clutches need specific motorcycle oils because otherwise the clutches slip?
I vaguely rememer hearing or reading somewhere that automotive oils used to use friction modifiers, but that most modern oils don't now days.

Any comments or suggestions or recommendations?

Bear in mind that I'm a broke uni student...

[Motu]

More like the other way round - car oils didn't use friction modifyers but now they do.It's a US emmissions and fuel economy issue and the oils affected are mainly thinner oils like 10/30 and below.15/40 won't be friction modified - but you gotta read the label - anything about emmissions or fuel ecconomy means it was developed for a specific purpose.