650 production looks likely for 2008

[kickingzebra]

That is interesting. Id like to see a wickedly racified SV 650, - Presumably that is what Jason Nairn is running?
The market for 400s in japan is still big though, or so I was told by Japanese friends in 04, simply because their license prevents them from riding a bigger bike at one stage. Maybe there is a HP cap as well, killing development. I dunno.
Would be nice to see what a modern engineered 400 could do.

On a by line, I wonder if you could get away with racing the fzr 800 V8 some aussies made a few years ago, it was about 160 horse at the wheel... and still based on an FZR 400... loosely....

[FROSTY:Me]

MB--I basicly agree with you cept to me its a case of why frigging reinvent the wheel??
The poms and the Yanks have been racing SV's for donkeys years
The poms simply said-"mate do what ya like --the bike must LOOK stock mechanicly and cant be more than 75hp at the back wheel/
That would allow a guy to go into xyz suzukawasakionda and buy a bike and be reasonably competative. By the same account it allows a bloke with an older/cheaper bike to hot it up (find the 10 or more hp they are down on the injected bikes.) Its gotta be a win win
No USD forks and a 75hp cap simple really

[kickingzebra]

But is it all about equal competition?
Its the synergy of man (or Woman) and machine that does it, so to focus on one, at the expense of another seems to cut the equation in half.
It will prove who is the better rider though I suppose!

[212-Motorsport]

Were Renta races Completly standard? Dont no if They were or not I was only 13 then! And to frosty yeah I dont feel that safe with front end either but just have to ride round it

[Keystone19]

But is it all about equal competition?
Its the synergy of man (or Woman) and machine that does it, so to focus on one, at the expense of another seems to cut the equation in half.
It will prove who is the better rider though I suppose!

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LMAO

[FROSTY:Me]

nope the renta racers had a fork kit.
And keep in mind the injected 650's are pumping out 73 hp out of the box so a 75 hp limit wiould be easy

[bluninja]

nope the renta racers had a fork kit.
And keep in mind the injected 650's are pumping out 73 hp out of the box so a 75 hp limit wiould be easy

Bugger...and I bought and raced a standard SV in the SV650 class against the rent a racers. No wonder I struggled (ignoring my size and lack of ability). Funny but I went slower after I upgraded the suspension.

Are people still bleating about F3 and SV650s?? I'd have though 4 years would have been enough to sort it.

Whilst you are levelling the playing field why not make skinny runt (I said Runt) riders carry ballast to say 80 kg total rider weight(fully kitted). Or maybe set a power to weight ratio so that we are more even. Face it, people with money will find an advantage in the rules, or move to a class that is more advantageous. It's a case of how much do you want to win??

[kickingzebra]

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LMAO

Jill is my hero... Sigh

[roogazza]

Are people still bleating about F3 and SV650s?? I'd have though 4 years would have been enough to sort it.

Whilst you are levelling the playing field why not make skinny runt (I said Runt) riders carry ballast to say 80 kg total rider weight(fully kitted). Or maybe set a power to weight ratio so that we are more even. Face it, people with money will find an advantage in the rules, or move to a class that is more advantageous. It's a case of how much do you want to win??

Has this F3 and SV650 debate been going on four years ? Why doesn't that surprise me ? I'd be a starter for an SV, but knowing my luck the powers that be will ban them. Clear direction from MNZ would be good !

As above , controlling weight wouldn't be a bad idea, A mate of mine ran with us in 410 , light years ago and he weighed about 7.5 stones ringing wet and in his socks ! It was like he had a turbo compared to my 12.5..

ps. and remember we didn't have fork kits or shocks and hell, our tires were round and black ! you could run TT 100's or TT100's !! Talk about level playing field ?!!!!!!!! Gaz.

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