Clutching VS. Power wheelies: Chain wear

[onearmedbandit]

Wheelies?? Ahhh shit. Actually, it'll work for that too!

[Kornholio]

Now no more mess and nearly no more chain wear.

Chain wear would be '0' at the moment wouldnt it buddy.... Scott-oiler going cheap?

[GIXser]

ok , not to steal ya thread MT, but here's a question for you "experienced one ups"..... i can get it up no worries"" (stopped laughing yet).... but when im up, the fuckin thing drifts like hell" so im guessing.. im sitting to far to one side etc, i try pushing the pegs etc, and ...na...nothing... any pointers here folks...it can drift left or right,, anything i should concentrate on??? its obvious i am doing something wrong.. but what..???

[GIXser]

ok , not to steal ya thread MT, but here's a question for you "experienced one ups"..... i can get it up no worries"" (stopped laughing yet).... but when im up, the fuckin thing drifts like hell" so im guessing.. im sitting to far to one side etc, i try pushing the pegs etc, and ...na...nothing... any pointers here folks...it can drift left or right,, anything i should concentrate on??? its obvious i am doing something wrong.. but what..???

[dss3]

Use the handle bars to steer, even though the wheel is in the air the forces of the wheel spinning mean that turning the bars will still steer the bike to a degree... can help a bit...

[Quasievil]

even though the wheel is in the air

and the rider, and the rear wheel, well the whole fucken thing really

[onearmedbandit]

ok , not to steal ya thread MT, but here's a question for you "experienced one ups"..... i can get it up no worries"" (stopped laughing yet).... but when im up, the fuckin thing drifts like hell" so im guessing.. im sitting to far to one side etc, i try pushing the pegs etc, and ...na...nothing... any pointers here folks...it can drift left or right,, anything i should concentrate on??? its obvious i am doing something wrong.. but what..???

Shift your body weight, lead with your shoulders. At least that's what I do to counter it, although I must say it's only when the camber of the road changes or it's windy. Or just wanting to turn the bike around slight corners. Putting weight on the pegs, as you've found, does 5/8ths of fuck all.

dss3 is quite right as well, but only has a slight effect, diminshed as the rotation of the wheel slows, and if you're keeping it up for 1000m or so the front slows down significantly.

[The_Dover]

ok , not to steal ya thread MT, but here's a question for you "experienced one ups"..... i can get it up no worries"" (stopped laughing yet).... but when im up, the fuckin thing drifts like hell" so im guessing.. im sitting to far to one side etc, i try pushing the pegs etc, and ...na...nothing... any pointers here folks...it can drift left or right,, anything i should concentrate on??? its obvious i am doing something wrong.. but what..???

lose some weight fatty, it's your belly oscillating.

[Motoracer]

Not that it matters, its a small price to pay for the fun aye??

Damn straight!

Cheers for sharing the info guys.

Loosebruce being the smart cu*t that he is, made a very good point as we were having lunch. I have a light weight 520 racing chain and most of you road riders on big bikes have atleast a 525 or a 530 chain on your bikes. So I will already have some durability issues there...

Putting weight on the pegs, as you've found, does 5/8ths of fuck all.

Don't know about motorbikes but for pushbikes it works a treat. That's how I do circle wheelies (along with the rest of the body weight shifting as well as moving the bars at the same time) and then switch the direction of the circle from one to other..

[onearmedbandit]

Just my experience with my 74kg weight on a 190ish kg (wet) bike balancing on the back at race track speeds. Probably for slow turning wheelies on a sportsbike it does make a difference.

[2much]

As OAB said, the front wheels good as long as it's spinning, then move you body weight around. The slower you're going the more the bike will respond. So if you've got a corner coming up pull it back past BP and use the rear brake to slow it down first, then you'll find it easier to pull the bike around it.

Also (for sit-downs) try to pull your weight up as high as possible as it tends to steady the bike and you'll then have more effect when hanging off the side.

[loosebruce]

By using off the throttle technique in 2nd gear like you do sudeep the chain snatch is quite high, i'd say higher than a quick slip of the clutch, out right power wheelies wont bother the chain too much, it's just a practice thing mainly, in time you will get smoother at bringing the front up.

With drifting off, simple if you drift to the left shift your body weight to the right but steer left, getting all crossed up n stylie, just straighten shit up before you land it aye.

[GIXser]

With drifting off, simple if you drift to the left shift your body weight to the right but steer left, getting all crossed up n stylie, just straighten shit up before you land it aye.

thanks for the tips fellas, interesting you mention landing it right, had a beauty the other day, i thought it was gonna land on its crash bungs, thats how far sideways it went--well not really ...but close

[The_Dover]

had a beauty the other day, i thought it was gonna land on its crash bungs, thats how far sideways it went--well not really ...but close

I see you watching Zed, does that sound familiar??

[Zed]

I see you watching Zed, does that sound familiar??

That was on my Blackbird last year and you were the only one who witnessed it Dover. Totally freaked me, kinda similar to this except that's straight in comparison.

Chain wear through wheelies, i'm not sure which method causes the more wear MR, no doubt they both put extra pressure in the chain, wear would also be relative to how smooth a technique is used.