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    Here's something I lifted off another forum. Although it seems the qualifications differ a fair bit depending on where you are. I'll check John Xu out and see how it goes. Cheers.

    The hierarchy of practitioners who fix mechanical problems with the body (sprains, tears, dislocations, etc etc) goes something like this:

    PHYSIOTHERAPIST: extensive theoretical and practical training at academic institutions, internationally-recognised certifications. Think of these people as the engineers of the body. They've studied how shit works, they've tested how shit works, and they know why shit happens. The solutions offered by physiotherapists are often hard work, and involve a lot of pain. And the physios don't care. If you're too lazy to do the weeks of painful exercises that will repair your body, it's your own fucking problem.

    CHIROPRACTOR: not-so-extensive theoretical and practical training at schools which may or may not be officially recognised, certifications vary from country to country. Think of these people as hobbyists of the body. They don't have the formal background and rigorous testing of the engineers, but they have a pretty good amateur understanding of how shit works. If an engineer designs and tests engines in a laboratory, the hobbyist is good at tweaking his own car for performance in his garage at home. As Pimp-X said above, often chiropractors focus on making the patient feel better rather than fixing the problem.

    Physiotherapists and chiropractors sometimes move in the same circles and belong to the same organisations (e.g., the NZ Manipulative Therapists Association), in the same way that you might often see formally-qualified professional computer scientists and bedroom hackers together at a Linux conference.

    OSTEOPATH: no required theoretical or practical training. Basically... quacks. This is the "magnets, reflexology, your-pain-is-caused-by-repressed-memories-of-Satanic-abuse" shallow end of the pool. If physiotherapists are engineers, and chiropractors are knowledgable amateurs, then osteopaths are... well, if an engineer designs and tests engines in a laboratory, and the hobbyist is good at tweaking his own car for performance, then the osteopath knows that putting on a bigger exhaust, a spoiler, and lowering the car makes it GO FASTERER!!!1. In the same way that idiot riceboys sometimes do things that actually DO improve performance, the osteopath can sometimes do things that actually DO make the patient feel better. They just don't really know why. The solutions offered by osteopaths usually involve an impressive noise (i.e., they know that if you jerk someone upright, their spine might go "crack") and short-term pain relief. If you start hurting again the moment you walk out the door, the osteopath doesn't know why, but he already has your money... so make another appointment to hear the cool cracking noise! And you felt better immediately! For ten whole minutes! And you didn't have to do ANY work!

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    John's none of the above. He's a Qualified MD and Surgeon in China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMelon
    Can anyone recommend a good physio in Wellington who'll do ACC work? I did something to my upper back at squash yesterday and it's hurting like a bitch between my shoulder blades whenever I turn/tilt my head. It's weird though cos there was no pain at the time, but it suddenly appeared while I was sitting at home about 2 hours later. It's even worse this morning!
    I've had a similar thing before...and it came from nothing...just walking in the supermarket, next thing I know, a pinch in the nerves just inside right shoulder blade...then later on mega pain from movement.

    Best mate and I got the same thing, in the same place, on the same day! I still reckon it was his gf getting jealous and using voodoo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toast
    Best mate and I got the same thing, in the same place, on the same day! I still reckon it was his gf getting jealous and using voodoo.
    Yep! I reckon that's what happened to MrMelon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Physio's are quacks.

    John Xu is an Orthopaedic Surgeon and Chinese Doctor and has done excellent work for me with the same muscle group that I tore to shreds when I broke my neck and back. He was ACC approved then.
    Bollocks - Physio's are not quacks - having married a physio who deals with HTU & ITU Patients and runs a rehab programme for amputies and cancer affected patients, the training that she has done along with degree courses. She has greater clinical knowledge than Junior Doctors and S.H.O's..People go on about how wonderfull nurses are, try and look a bit deeper and you will find that Physio's deal with it at a more front line level and are able to run triage ... which alot of medicals can't.

    Ooops soap box session...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biohazard
    Bollocks - Physio's are not quacks - having married a physio who deals with HTU & ITU Patients and runs a rehab programme for amputies and cancer affected patients, the training that she has done along with degree courses. She has greater clinical knowledge than Junior Doctors and S.H.O's..People go on about how wonderfull nurses are, try and look a bit deeper and you will find that Physio's deal with it at a more front line level and are able to run triage ... which alot of medicals can't.

    Ooops soap box session...

    I love these guys to bits as they also helped my mum who had cancer...and I owe them everything.
    YOu apologise for the crack about Nurses and I'll try to look a bit harder at the job Physios do.
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    It depends on what you've done but I go to Sport and Work fit on Featherston st. ACC is free - unless you get acupunture then it's $3 for the needles. For muscle sprains or joint problems I'd say use them (They're all women too - Jessica is yummy). Very cost effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    YOu apologise for the crack about Nurses and I'll try to look a bit harder at the job Physios do.
    kk, apologies re: nurses (as they are very good and caring tbh), aslong as you re look at physio's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    YOu apologise for the crack about Nurses and I'll try to look a bit harder at the job Physios do.
    Mmmm Nurses crack....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colapop
    (They're all women too - Jessica is yummy)
    Because that is essential for recovery isnt it?!
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    Just to make things really interesting, let's have a crack at human resources, marketing, IT and engineering stereotypes. That ought offend just about everyone who has contributed to this thread

    It all comes back to the individual. I'm a mechanical engineer working in marketing so guess that means there's no hope at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket
    Because that is essential for recovery isnt it?!
    Absolutely. To be able to properly recover one must be in a state of relaxation. I can't think of anything more relaxing than laying on my back being attended to by a pretty woman! Especially when my wife approves of her...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colapop
    Absolutely. To be able to properly recover one must be in a state of relaxation. I can't think of anything more relaxing than laying on my back being attended to by a pretty woman! Especially when my wife approves of her...
    oopsie! I went to give you a greenie for that but hit the "report bad post" thingee instead... lol im a real winner!
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    It is probably more down to the practitioner rather than the practice. (just like martial arts).

    I had a very similar problem with my neck Mr Melon - ongoing over several years, kept recurring every few months or weeks if I was unlucky.

    Physio was no good, nor was a chiropracter or Doctor who refused to refer me to anyone. Osteopath did the trick though, and under ACC.

    Neck is not perfect and tightens up occasionally but I haven't had BAD pain for months. (At one stage I couldn't lift my head off the pillow.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird
    Interesting commments by Jim 2 about physios. When I first had this problem a few years back, our physio hurt me and made it worse. I thought chiropractors were related to witch doctors but went to one in desperation and he fixed me straight away..
    I have had the same experience. Didnt do my opinion of physios much good.
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