Death Penalty...

**Oakie** · 13th July 2006, 18:07

The mental health provider I work for would say many of the people you might consider suitable for termination to be on the wrong side of the law because they're mentally ill ... and you don't kill someone because they're mentally ill do you? ... (Well Hitler did but I guess he was an extreme case).

Personally I think I could deal with it being kept for extremely ugly crimes where the offender shows no remorse and has no hope of being re-integrated into society. Having said that though we had one such high profile bad person in our care last year and I would have been been very uncomfortable had that been his/her fate. So who knows?

**Oakie** · 13th July 2006, 18:11

Originally Posted by 98tls

it was Medbury mate.......originally from ch-ch.

Ok. Still, the cane's the cane wherever you are I guess. Didn't do me any lasting damage and it certainly stopped me disturbing the maths class.

**Macktheknife** · 13th July 2006, 18:21

Originally Posted by Oakie

The mental health provider I work for would say many of the people you might consider suitable for termination to be on the wrong side of the law because they're mentally ill ... and you don't kill someone because they're mentally ill do you? ... (Well Hitler did but I guess he was an extreme case).

Personally I think I could deal with it being kept for extremely ugly crimes where the offender shows no remorse and has no hope of being re-integrated into society. Having said that though we had one such high profile bad person in our care last year and I would have been been very uncomfortable had that been his/her fate. So who knows?

Oakie, dont hate me, but I do not make that distinction when it comes to the situation of repeated violent/sexual offenders, if they are mentally ill to the point of this level of danger then the same thing applies IMO.
Society is better off without them, we do not seem to keep them locked up well enough or long enough to make the rest of us safe. We cannot keep them medicated effectively, and ultimately they WILL kill, rape etc, given the chance without remorse or restraint.

**Dafe** · 13th July 2006, 18:23

I for one, would love to see first degree murderers placed on death row.

Thats the only place for them.

The alternative is to make some use of them..... By holding the annual Running Man tournament where we televise a last man standing death match in a futuristic maze. The prize for the winner can be - A choice between lethal injection and the chair.

**98tls** · 13th July 2006, 18:35

Originally Posted by Dafe

I for one, would love to see first degree murderers placed on death row.

Thats the only place for them.

The alternative is to make some use of them..... By holding the annual Running Man tournament where we televise a last man standing death match in a futuristic maze. The prize for the winner can be - A choice between lethal injection and the chair.

its all a bit difficult to work out who should fry and who shouldnt really...theres a guy in Invercargill prison whos sister was raped when he was 17.....he goes round and smashes the guys head in with a hammer...part of me thinks over the top but then again if it was your sister/mother/wife what would you do....alot of people would say good for him...thing is he is about 30 now..should we have fried him...i dunno.

**Grahameeboy** · 13th July 2006, 18:46

Sorry, I cannot agree with the death penalty........

**Skyryder** · 13th July 2006, 18:51

Originally Posted by 98tls

does anybody really believe david bain is innocent..i say fry the freak..

I don't know if he's innocent or not...............but there is too much doubt for him to be found guilty. Motive springs to mind.

I hold the same veiws for Scot Dixon.

Skyryder

**98tls** · 13th July 2006, 18:59

Originally Posted by Skyryder

I hold the same veiws for Scot Dixon.

Skyryder

Scott Dixon was a bad basterd for years before getting involved in that....we see these guys all clean cut with a suit on looking like angels on the news at 6...knowing what i do about his past i believe him well capable of commiting that crime.dont we mean Scott Watson....

**yungatart** · 13th July 2006, 19:01

Originally Posted by Skyryder

I don't know if he's innocent or not...............but there is too much doubt for him to be found guilty. Motive springs to mind.

I hold the same veiws for Scot Dixon.

Skyryder

Do you mean Scott Watson of the Sounds double murder? If not, who is Scott Dixon?

**Grahameeboy** · 13th July 2006, 19:03

Originally Posted by yungatart

Do you mean Scott Watson of the Sounds double murder? If not, who is Scott Dixon?

Yep Scott Dixon was done for speeding.........

**Dafe** · 13th July 2006, 19:03

Originally Posted by 98tls

its all a bit difficult to work out who should fry and who shouldnt really...theres a guy in Invercargill prison whos sister was raped when he was 17.....he goes round and smashes the guys head in with a hammer...part of me thinks over the top but then again if it was your sister/mother/wife what would you do....alot of people would say good for him...thing is he is about 30 now..should we have fried him...i dunno.

Perhaps not in this case.

But do you think the murderer from Owhiro Bay on the weekend, should just serve time for his acts of mutilation and then walk free?

**Street Gerbil** · 13th July 2006, 19:07

"Merciful to the wicked is wicked to the merciful" - Maimonides

**Skyryder** · 13th July 2006, 19:07

Originally Posted by 98tls

Scott Dixon was a bad basterd for years before getting involved in that....we see these guys all clean cut with a suit on looking like angels on the news at 6...knowing what i do about his past i believe him well capable of commiting that crime.

That may be correct being capable and doing it are two different things. I know how to kill a man with my bare hands so that he's dead before hits the ground. Does not mean that I will do it. Now I'm not saying that some bastads don't deserve to die. But the problem is that you have got to be bloody sure that you have got the right person. Who was that guy that got nailed for rape spent years inside and gor released on DNA evidence. The man was innocent but twelve good me and true found him guilty.

I just think there something callous that society can put in place a system that can take life.

I would like to see Life Without Parole. Not this bullshit where they are out in ten to fifteen.

Skyryder

**98tls** · 13th July 2006, 19:09

Originally Posted by Dafe

Perhaps not in this case.

But do you think the murderer from Owhiro Bay on the weekend, should just serve time for his acts of mutilation and then walk free?

nope....if they prove him guilty off with his head i say.