Death Penalty...

[The_Dover]

Unless you happen to be the innocent man. How do you think it'd feel, to die for something you didn't do?

I couldn't possibly say Lou.

But being locked up 24/7 with a bunch of arse raping apes and constantly worrying about my personal safety whilst knowing there is no light at the end of the tunnel would be about as depressing as it gets.

Who the fuck would want a life like that?

I'm not pro or anti death penalty, harsher sentences don't appear to be a real deterrent and locking the cunts up for eternity is nothing but a tax burden.

Forced hard labour is the way forward, I want every road in New Zealand to have a surface like a racetrack. Then maybe the road toll will drop and the pigs can concentrate on some intelligence work to break up organised crime and catch the looneys after their first bite.

[James Deuce]

Well honestly I'd rather die than spend the rest of my life in prison

Bullshit. You're 12. Life is short, and people who'd throw it away for a reason as shallow as that didn't deserve it in the first place. Life isn't that cheap. Funny thing is, you'll remember this conversation when you're 40 and go, "WTF was I thinking?"

There are worse things than being jailed for 20 years.

[Lou Girardin]

If the death sentence is such a deterrent, why does Washington DC have a higher murder rate than Baghdad?

Are you counting bombings?

I wonder if all the "I'd rather be deads" would feel the same as the needle goes in?

[98tls]

If the death sentence is such a deterrent, why does Washington DC have a higher murder rate than Baghdad?

yea but the marines are working on bringing that stat into line

[placidfemme]

If the death sentence is such a deterrent, why does Washington DC have a higher murder rate than Baghdad?

I don't know I don't study international crime rates and statistics... NZ needs to make its own decision on this, baseing the system here on what happens in other countrys is utter crap.

[Swoop]

The jails should not be a holiday camp.
NO TV or radios. Plenty of hard work, - as Dover has suggested there is ample opportunity on the roads. Make prison place one would NOT want to go back to! We need the Arizona Sheriff to take over the NZ jail system!!!

[Two Smoker]

If the death sentence is such a deterrent, why does Washington DC have a higher murder rate than Baghdad?

Yep, thats against the death penalty... And i agree with Dover (jesus whats the world coming too???) Hard labour... "This is how you make a road, this is how you weld... Do you know you can make money from this legally???"

[placidfemme]

Bullshit. You're 12. Life is short, and people who'd throw it away for a reason as shallow as that didn't deserve it in the first place. Life isn't that cheap. Funny thing is, you'll remember this conversation when you're 40 and go, "WTF was I thinking?"

There are worse things than being jailed for 20 years.

Like having to deal with you? I'm entitled to my own opinion, and yes I'd rather die than spend that time away. So if you think I don't deserve to live because of my opinion... well too bad theres nothing you can do about it

[James Deuce]

No it isn't. We don't have a death sentence here. But our murder rate is comparatively low in regards to the US, but our incarceration rates are higher than the US.

The Death Sentence is not a deterrent. Murders are usually either a crime of passion or planned by someone who thinks they aren't going to get caught.

[98tls]

Bullshit. You're 12. Life is short, and people who'd throw it away for a reason as shallow as that didn't deserve it in the first place. Life isn't that cheap. Funny thing is, you'll remember this conversation when you're 40 and go, "WTF was I thinking?"

There are worse things than being jailed for 20 years.

not sure i agree...you go to jail for even a couple of years then tell us how easy it is.

[yungatart]

I wouldn't want to go to jail for a crime that I had committed let alone for something I hadn't done. But I would rather spend 20 years in jail wrongly than have them take my life wrongly. I'm not saying I would survive it wonderfully, nor would I come out unchanged... but I would get through it somehow... pretty hard to survive the death penalty

[James Deuce]

Like having to deal with you? I'm entitled to my own opinion, and yes I'd rather die than spend that time away. So if you think I don't deserve to live because of my opinion... well too bad theres nothing you can do about it

Sigh. Up to you if you think your life is that worthless.

[98tls]

Yep, thats against the death penalty... And i agree with Dover (jesus whats the world coming too???) Hard labour... "This is how you make a road, this is how you weld... Do you know you can make money from this legally???"

Cant blame the inmates in jail for not working..there would be plenty that would love to but hey its not like they can walk out everytime they see a job advertised in the paper eh...the government needs to get off its arse and do something about making the facilities avaliable for them to work..i agree theres plenty for them to do but unless the government and the prison system come to the party theres fuck all the inmates can do.

[scumdog]

I'd agree with the death penalty for some crimes. ( ie Paying good money for a Quacker)
IF, there is no doubt at all about the offenders guilt.

Like that wierdo from the RSA robbery/murders, who want's to pay to keep that waste of oxygen alive for 20 odd years???

Shoot him.

And any others caught in that manner - when there's NO doubt they did it, BANG!! end of story, cheap as chips too.

[Swoop]

Add Peter Ellis and David Bain to that...

Peter Ellis. When his workmates said he couldn't have committed the crime. Yay, lets ignore that evidence.

David Bain. The evidence does not stack up on that one. Also interesting that the house was razed very quickly after the enquiry.