Our great justice/police system part 2

**Ozzie** · 15th July 2006, 18:19

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Actually I think we have far too much "management". We would be better served by returning to the days when we had commanders instead of managers.

I'll highlight the "Management that has a clue" part, not saying not enough management, but that what is there is useless.

Why is it that 90% of crime happens at night????

Two reasons I think;
1. It is easier to hide
2. There is F-all cops around

**WINJA** · 15th July 2006, 18:20

hes putting us on his ignore list cause he cant mount an intelligent challenge , spud is bordering on being retarded , to many hits to the head with his own baton id say

**Ozzie** · 15th July 2006, 18:24

Originally Posted by WINJA

hes putting us on his ignore list cause he cant mount an intelligent challenge , spud is bordering on being retarded , to many hits to the head with his own baton id say

Does every cop have an ignore list????

Not just on here I think, saw a fight the other night, and called the cops (was a big fight), when they arrived, I directed the cop to the seriously injured guy, and the perp, he ignored me, I reiterated, he threatened to lock me up!!!!

What the?

Yes I had a few under my belt, but not all people on the piss are young, ignorant, arrogent and stupid!

And yes, I can't spoell.

**Karma** · 15th July 2006, 18:43

Originally Posted by WINJA

WHAT EVER YOU USELESS SACK OF SHIT YOU HAVE NO ANSWERS SO YOU HAVE AN ATTEMPT AT HUMOR, ITS NOT AT ALL FUNNY THAT THE PIGS DONT TURN UP

Well here's the thing.

I'd personally thought of joining the coppers... don't ask why, just had an idea that it might be nice to get out of a call centre and try and make a difference to somebody.

Then I realised, I doubt I could be bothered putting up with the amount of shit you throw at the coppers on this site. If I joined the force would I be just another 'useless sack of shit'?

Perhaps if being a copper meant more than people calling you a wanker behind your back then more people would join up... staffing problem solved.

Failing that, you could always get off your ass, stop the bitching and join up yourself?

**WINJA** · 15th July 2006, 18:49

Originally Posted by Weasel

Well here's the thing.

I'd personally thought of joining the coppers... don't ask why, just had an idea that it might be nice to get out of a call centre and try and make a difference to somebody.

Then I realised, I doubt I could be bothered putting up with the amount of shit you throw at the coppers on this site. If I joined the force would I be just another 'useless sack of shit'?

Perhaps if being a copper meant more than people calling you a wanker behind your back then more people would join up... staffing problem solved.

Failing that, you could always get off your ass, stop the bitching and join up yourself?

WHY WOULD I JOIN , I CHOSE MY JOB AND I DO IT WELL , IVE ALSO BEEN PUT IN A SITUATION A FEW TIMES WHERE I FACED BEING FIRED IF I DID THE RIGHT THING AND GUESS WHAT I DID THE RIGHT THING AND FACED THE CONSEQUENCES SO NOW I DONT ACCPET EXCUSES FROM THE PIGS OR ANYONE ELSE , I DO BLAME THE FUCKER ON THE COAL FACE CAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF THEY PUT MORE EFFORT INTO POLICEING AND LESS EFFORT INTO COLLECTING TAXES NZ WILL BE A BETTER PLACE, THE GOVERNMENT CAN ONLY CASH IN ON THE MOTORIST IF THE PIGS ENABLE THEM AND THEY DO

**Karma** · 15th July 2006, 18:57

Originally Posted by WINJA

IVE ALSO BEEN PUT IN A SITUATION A FEW TIMES WHERE I FACED BEING FIRED IF I DID THE RIGHT THING AND GUESS WHAT I DID THE RIGHT THING AND FACED THE CONSEQUENCES

Serving up a BigMac rather than McChicken... yeh I'd be worried too....

SO NOW I DONT ACCPET EXCUSES FROM THE PIGS OR ANYONE ELSE , I DO BLAME THE FUCKER ON THE COAL FACE CAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF THEY PUT MORE EFFORT INTO POLICEING AND LESS EFFORT INTO COLLECTING TAXES NZ WILL BE A BETTER PLACE

Hmm... my understanding is that the regular police are separate to the HP devision, now while I may agree that there are too many HP, and many of these could and should be shifted onto the beat, I don't agree that the front line guys can do that much extra work to make the kind of changes you are talking about. That level of change requires reforms from top down, front line guys take all the stick, but have little or now power over the way things work.

THE GOVERNMENT CAN ONLY CASH IN ON THE MOTORIST IF THE PIGS ENABLE THEM AND THEY DO

Not sure about this one, isn't that like saying 'the goverment can only cash in on parking tickets if parking wardens let them'?

If I was a HP officer it's a fairly simple case, give out tickets or miss this weeks rent... not a difficult choice, and lets face it, if you havn't done anything wrong, they can't do anything to you.

**98tls** · 15th July 2006, 19:02

fuckin hell another cop bashing thread......if there wasnt so many Dickheads out there then we wouldnt need to rely on them so much....maybe society needs to look at itself rather than blaming the cops for everything...

take the cops off the road then how fuckin safe are we going to be on motorcycles...its bad enough already thanks.

**Karma** · 15th July 2006, 19:04

Originally Posted by 98tls

fuckin hell another cop bashing thread......if there wasnt so many Dickheads out there then we wouldnt need to rely on them so much....maybe society needs to look at itself rather than blaming the cops for everything...

take the cops off the road then how fuckin safe are we going to be on motorcycles...its bad enough already thanks.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 98tls again.

**scumdog** · 15th July 2006, 19:59

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

And having a dig at the people who justify chases because they might be murderers, druggies etc. etc.

Not me - I do it for the fun!!!

**scumdog** · 15th July 2006, 20:02

Originally Posted by WINJA

WHY WOULD I JOIN , I CHOSE MY JOB AND I DO IT WELL , IVE ALSO BEEN PUT IN A SITUATION A FEW TIMES WHERE I FACED BEING FIRED IF I DID THE RIGHT THING AND GUESS WHAT I DID THE RIGHT THING AND FACED THE CONSEQUENCES.

Yeah, like I'm going to shoot off to another town and join the better Police Force there after I got fired!!

**Ozzie** · 15th July 2006, 20:06

Originally Posted by scumdog

Not me - I do it for the fun!!!

Some people just don't get it!

No matter how many times you tell them, try to reason, etc etc....

It's like trying to get logic into a rock, no matter how hard you try, no matter how much you push, it just wont get in.......

Mr plod, keep thinking your single minded "I am the LAW" ways, you can do no wrong, neither can the other drongo's you work with.

Like anything else, there is good and bad in any groop, unfortunately it is the misguided, pig headed (no pun intended), wanks that have a voice!

Most people can accept they are not always right, and accept their faults, either personal or professional, but hey, you be the exception, go on.

**scumdog** · 15th July 2006, 20:09

Originally Posted by Winston001

Crime does occur at night and I'd naively thought a full shift of officers would always be on duty.

Personally I'd be complaining to the Police Complaints Authority, my MP, the Minister of Police, talk-back radio etc. Not a lot of effort really.

The public would be appalled if they knew how thin the 'thin blue line' was in a ot of places at night.

They have an illusion that there are just as many on at night as they see during the day - not so, I've heard of it being down to 3 cops and a sgt for the whole of Dunedin on a Friday night.

And yes, if the story at the start of this thread is true it needs to be publicised and the PCA contacted.