Waimak dirt ride Sunday the 30/7/06

**far queue** · 25th July 2006, 09:16

Originally Posted by cooneyr

Just have to hope for the good weather now aye! Keen to give the E-09's a decient go off road. Curious though - what pressure do you guys run in them on road. I'm finding the front kinda skittery. It runs ok but I feel far less stable than on the D605.

I run 12-15psi off road, lowering the pressure makes a BIG difference. Have you got rim locks fitted? You really need them if you're going to go to low pressures. I run 22-26psi on the road.

Originally Posted by cooneyr

I managed a slow (30kphish) low side off on some ice/new E-09s (with maybe to much air???) on the way into work on Monday morning.

Bummer. Always a pain when damage is done but good that you're OK though.

**far queue** · 25th July 2006, 09:22

Originally Posted by lemans

And I thought that you were having a ball in the snow. :slap:

I was having a ball, but I was still over it by the end.

**laRIKin** · 25th July 2006, 18:13

Originally Posted by cooneyr

Just have to hope for the good weather now aye! Keen to give the E-09's a decient go off road. Curious though - what pressure do you guys run in them on road

Well I run 18-25 psi on the road and normally use 18 as I can not be bothered changing the pressures all the time.
I would drop the pressures in 2 psi increments until you find a pressure that you like.
You should be all right running pressures as low as 18 psi with out rim locks.
I would recommend using rim locks if you are running pressures lower than that.

Originally Posted by cooneyr

I managed a slow (30kphish) low side off on some ice

Bugger, shit happens.

**Transalper** · 25th July 2006, 22:18

Originally Posted by cooneyr

... I'm finding the front kinda skittery. It runs ok but I feel far less stable than on the D605.

I managed a slow (30kphish) low side off on some ice/new E-09s (with maybe to much air???) on the way into work on Monday morning.

This is my first road off. ....
Cheers
R

Interesting, the E09's are fine on the Transalp in all on road conditions.
So what pressure do you have in the E09's (just thinking it is a lighter bike). Maybe you need a small adjustment to your cornering technique on these tyres.
Also, another thought... ice is extra slippery especially if you are trying to corner on it and so maybe tyres weren't going to make a difference this time anyway.
Glad your ok, see you on the weekend.

**cooneyr** · 26th July 2006, 08:08

Thanks for the comments guys. I have the front pressure at about 25 and the rear at about 22 at the moment. I think I'll try dopping the front to around 20-22ish and see if it helps. The tyres seem pretty stiff walled so I'm guessing they should be up to it.

Originally Posted by Transalper

Maybe you need a small adjustment to your cornering technique on these tyres. Also, another thought... ice is extra slippery especially if you are trying to corner on it and so maybe tyres weren't going to make a difference this time anyway.

I think you are right Transalper about the learning a different technique for cornering with these tyres - go slower! LOL

It is a corner that never drys out in winter (never gets any sun) so suspect it was sheet/black ice which I'm guessing I didnt have a chance on anyway unless I was really slow. Was just unsure how much to expect from the tyres.

I had a look at the site yesterday and realised that given where the bike ended up I must have been about 3/4 of the way around the corner and straightening up before I came off so suspect it was ice rather than tyres or cornering technique.

All is sorted now - new front guard on, jacket patched (Oh no not a narsty patch!!!! LOL), and body mostly back to normal. So all good for Sunday.

Cheers
R

**laRIKin** · 26th July 2006, 18:03

Really at the end of the day if you strike ice, it does not matter what ties you are on.
That is unless they are ice tires that have spikes.
And then they will be crap on the normal tar seal.

When I'm riding with knobbly tires I just go slow in to the corner and power up all the way out and find the limits of grip.
Yes they can drift a bit (at times), but thats just a good thing, right?

And my tank weighs about 150kg's so those lower tire pressures should be fine on your lighter bike and you may even go lower.

**Transalper** · 28th July 2006, 18:51

Weather's looking good again... bikes are ready again....

**laRIKin** · 28th July 2006, 20:53

Originally Posted by Transalper

Weather's looking good again... bikes are ready again....

Yes the weather is looking like it is going to be good for a ride on Sunday.

Transalper you say bikes? Does that mean that J is coming out to play as well?

And Russell has confirmed that he will be coming along for a play in the mud as well.

**Transalper** · 28th July 2006, 21:57

Na, J's coming out Saturday for a putt putt.
I'm undecided on my choice of bike for Sunday. I can't reach Plug so don't know if he's going, and I don't want to be the only heavy weight bike there, so got the CRF ready too.

**laRIKin** · 29th July 2006, 09:11

Originally Posted by Transalper

Na, J's coming out Saturday for a putt putt.
I'm undecided on my choice of bike for Sunday. I can't reach Plug so don't know if he's going, and I don't want to be the only heavy weight bike there, so got the CRF ready too.

Tell J to toughen up and come out and play, shealbe all right.

I'm not sure that the Transalpe would be much fun to ride on the South side.
It's a lot tighter and rougher compered to the North side.
You could do it, but you will be working for it, so eat an extra WeetBix or two.
And it will be harder to take another route and meet up with us again.

**cooneyr** · 29th July 2006, 16:08

Originally Posted by lemans

Tell J to toughen up and come out and play, shealbe all right.

I'm not sure that the Transalpe would be much fun to ride on the South side.
It's a lot tighter and rougher compered to the North side.

Yer Transalp - bring J and the 230. We are not that scary are we? Well I hope I'm not, dont know about the others with names like Green Meanie and Far Queue

See you all tomorrow.
R

**far queue** · 29th July 2006, 23:20

So, just to confirm - we're still on at McLeans Island Carpark opposite the handloaders club at 1100 Sunday?

I'll check in here in the morning and see you all there.

**Transalper** · 30th July 2006, 09:25

that's where i'll be at 11am...

**Ghost Lemur** · 30th July 2006, 09:47

Have a good one guys. Take loads of pics for us.

It's a bit cool at the moment, but doesn't look like it's going to rain or anything so it should be sweet.

Looking forward to the ride report.