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    Quote Originally Posted by Maido
    Another one i enjoy is swapping from an old english bike to jappa, good times changing gears with the brakes!!!
    I never had any problems shifting to left or right foot change,up for first or down for first - but after 20 years of solely left foot down for first it might be different today,or it might be such a change I would remember easily.At one point 1980/81 my 4 motorcycles all had right shift up for first.....that would be perfect for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kickingzebra
    In saying that, I've never tried it yet, but am thinking about it.


    What? Changing up...?
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    If you only ride your racebike then you can talk about theoretical advantages.

    If you have other bikes then either you have to change them all over -or you have to spend attention to which way you change. Even if it is a little attn it is still attn not used on other things, nickels & dimes as Keith Code would probably espouse (I think they are some form of currency). The point being you have a limited amount of attention. My H was reverse for a while, got used to it. But always had to be in the back of my mind.

    I ride dirtbikes as well & it is a task to change them over.

    I’d rather not have to think abut it, I see it as far less of a disadvantage than accidentally slipping up & changing the wrong way, maybe while heeling into a corner.

    Kevin Schwantz ran std roadbike pattern. I always figured when I’m better than him I’ll change over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave

    I ride dirtbikes as well & it is a task to change them over.
    Only a couple of mins at most on most

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave
    If you only ride your racebike then you can talk about theoretical advantages.

    If you have other bikes then either you have to change them all over -or you have to spend attention to which way you change. Even if it is a little attn it is still attn not used on other things, nickels & dimes as Keith Code would probably espouse (I think they are some form of currency). The point being you have a limited amount of attention. My H was reverse for a while, got used to it. But always had to be in the back of my mind.

    I ride dirtbikes as well & it is a task to change them over.

    I’d rather not have to think abut it, I see it as far less of a disadvantage than accidentally slipping up & changing the wrong way, maybe while heeling into a corner.

    Kevin Schwantz ran std roadbike pattern. I always figured when I’m better than him I’ll change over.
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    Given the short comings of my riding style, it doesn't matter what I'm riding till I've got my shit in one sock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos
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    You can't lean that far anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toast
    You can't lean that far anyway...
    I don't need too....ta kick your ghey honda's arse boi!!!!
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    Given the short comings of my riding style, it doesn't matter what I'm riding till I've got my shit in one sock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos
    I don't need too....ta kick your ghey honda's arse boi!!!!
    Actually my Honda's pegs will probably be on the deck before you're in need of a race shift...but I'll be bloody comfy...and I'll pull out a feast of chow mein chicken from my underseat at the next stop...then you'll be jealous of the allround practicality of the Honda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear
    What? Changing up...?
    There is no need to! I can do the legal speed limit in first!!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toast
    Actually my Honda's pegs will probably be on the deck before you're in need of a race shift...but I'll be bloody comfy...and I'll pull out a feast of chow mein chicken from my underseat at the next stop...then you'll be jealous of the allround practicality of the Honda
    nah...I probally won't be....
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    Given the short comings of my riding style, it doesn't matter what I'm riding till I've got my shit in one sock.

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    Ive ridden mella yella and black ice with normal and reverse shift.
    I spend too much time on the road on all sorts of bikes to get my head around reverse shift
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    Depends on where your head is - I used to often ride behind my wife,that way she could set the pace on her T150 Trident,and I would try to keep up on my 600 SS Norton.But all I could hear was the howling Trident,and as I spent a fair bit of time on it myself,I'd mentaly make the gearchanges for the Trident...wrong for the Norton!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Les
    This is probably a stupid question, but a mate and I were trying to work out why the shift pattern on race bikes are upside down compared to standard road bikes. We assume that it's for practical reasons specific to racing like easier shifting while tucked, etc. Or is it just one of those "traditional" things?
    The 'traditional' reason is like some have said, it's near impossible to get your foot under a gear lever when cranked over on the left side....a-la Manfeild long track coming back out onto the old track....GP tracks generally have corners that open out, so you're often shifting up as you are on your way out.
    It's no biggie to get used to.....it's also (I find) quicker to upshift when you're stomping down on the lever, compared to lifting it up.
    If you try it, maybe this will help....when I'm hard on the gas, I say to myself...."Time to get down" (shifting up...), when I come into a corner, I think whoa....."Slow up...!" changing down.
    Well....works for me anyway!

    I ride all sorts of bikes every day, but you soon find you can swap from one pattern to the other no sweat!

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    Doohn had a good one for remembering the reverse pattern.
    Heads up, change up. Heads down, change down.

    I had a session on a ZXR750 Superbike years back that used the reverse shift. I had no problem with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite
    Doohn had a good one for remembering the reverse pattern.
    Heads up, change up. Heads down, change down.

    I had a session on a ZXR750 Superbike years back that used the reverse shift. I had no problem with it.
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