Death Penalty...

**Two Smoker** · 13th July 2006, 11:55

In a recent thread, the death penalty came up...

Should it be reinstated???

If yes, under what circumstances???

Why not???

**yungatart** · 13th July 2006, 11:58

No! It makes us no better than those whose lives we take. It can be horrendously expensive going through the appeals process etc and I'm not sure that it is any real deterrent to serious crime.. how many inmates are there on Death Row in the US?

**98tls** · 13th July 2006, 11:58

Do Helen Clarke first.

**Firefight** · 13th July 2006, 12:00

does the name Arthur Allan Thomas ring a bell ?

F/F

**yungatart** · 13th July 2006, 12:02

Add Peter Ellis and David Bain to that...

**Two Smoker** · 13th July 2006, 12:02

Originally Posted by yungatart

No! It makes us no better than those whose lives we take. It can be horrendously expensive going through the appeals process etc and I'm not sure that it is any real deterrent to serious crime.. how many inmates are there on Death Row in the US?

It can also be horrendiously expensive keeping someone in prison for 20+ years...

**98tls** · 13th July 2006, 12:05

Originally Posted by yungatart

Add Peter Ellis and David Bain to that...

does anybody really believe david bain is innocent..i say fry the freak..

**placidfemme** · 13th July 2006, 12:09

YES YES YES

Because its only fair.

I think it should be brought into effect with crimes such as murder and sexual offences, and depending on the crime serial offenders who show no hope of becoming law abiding citizens... Also drug dealers (not the little guys selling tinnies in the back alley... but the assholes cooking P in a rented house, or the guys who try to bring huge amounts of meth (or whatever its called) into the country...)

As mentioned in the other thread the advantages of such, is a stonger (whats the word) sense of closure for the victims and victims family. Saves us as the taxpayers from supporting thier usless asses while in prision. And if they agree (and even if they don't) thier organs for those good people suffering and needing them

**Two Smoker** · 13th July 2006, 12:10

Originally Posted by yungatart

Add Peter Ellis and David Bain to that...

Yep the names you bring up bring into the thread, "Whats the situation have to be like to sentence them to death?" For instance do they have a extremely long list of offending and reoffending, and are scums of the earth???

I dont want people where the case is "iffy" being executed... But people like Frankie Edwards should be... But if the Death Penalty was a possible sentence, would we see less offending DUE to the possibility of Death???

**MSTRS:Me** · 13th July 2006, 12:11

Originally Posted by 98tls

....really believe david bain is innocent....

As the driven snow. A stitch-up as bad as A A T

**James Deuce** · 13th July 2006, 12:11

I suppose it doesn't matter if we kill a few innocent people, just so long as we get the bad guys, eh?

Now who models their entire raison de etre for war on that premise? Some bloke from Texas isn't it?

**Two Smoker** · 13th July 2006, 12:13

Originally Posted by placidfemme

YES YES YES

Because its only fair.

I think it should be brought into effect with crimes such as murder and sexual offences, and depending on the crime serial offenders who show no hope of becoming law abiding citizens... Also drug dealers (not the little guys selling tinnies in the back alley... but the assholes cooking P in a rented house, or the guys who try to bring huge amounts of meth (or whatever its called) into the country...)

As mentioned in the other thread the advantages of such, is a stonger (whats the word) sense of closure for the victims and victims family. Saves us as the taxpayers from supporting thier usless asses while in prision. And if they agree (and even if they don't) thier organs for those good people suffering and needing them

But where do we draw the line??? What if the drug manufacturer had an extrememly sick family and was trying to get money fast to make them better/ more comfortable??? What if someone comes into my home and attacks my partner, and i kill him (because i know i would) does that mean i deserve the death penalty???

**MSTRS:Me** · 13th July 2006, 12:13

Originally Posted by Jim2

I suppose it doesn't matter if we kill a few innocent people, just so long as we get the bad guys, eh?

Now who models their entire raison de etre for war on that premise? Some bloke from Texas isn't it?

"Did I do good, Daddy?"

**Lou Girardin** · 13th July 2006, 12:14

I'd agree with the death penalty for some crimes. ( ie Paying good money for a Quacker)
IF, there is no doubt at all about the offenders guilt.

**muzz** · 13th July 2006, 12:14

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

It can also be horrendiously expensive keeping someone in prison for 20+ years...

So we pay (as tax payers) for the prisons to be built and pay for them to be staffed. So they (as prisoners) pay for there food, clothing etc.
Set prisons up to be more self sufficient and get these barstards working and not laying around all day. Going to prison you sould forfiet your rights and do hard labour to pay for your crime and support the system.